Episode 186

Wellness Without Walls: Non-Profit Spot Light

Published on: 5th November, 2025

Exploring Wellness Without Walls: Supporting Mental Health & Wellness | Whiskey Wisdom Podcast

In this episode of the Whiskey Wisdom Podcast, co-hosts Tyler and Chris Kellum are joined by special guest Buffy Andrews to discuss her nonprofit, Wellness Without Walls. The conversation delves into Wellness Without Walls' mission to provide free and reduced-cost mental health and wellness services to individuals who cannot afford it. Buffy shares insights on the differences between social work and counseling, the importance of integrated care, and her innovative Breakthrough Healing Immersions program. Additionally, the hosts and guest enjoy a tasting of bear-proof huckleberry flavored whiskey and discuss the value of community support and giving back.


00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:18 Discussing Buffy's Nonprofit: Wellness Without Walls

01:02 Whiskey Tasting and Discussion

04:33 Deep Dive into Wellness Without Walls

08:40 Challenges in Social Work and Counseling

19:15 Men's Mental Health and Wellness Without Walls

21:07 Supporting Wellness Without Walls

24:50 Blending Coaching and Therapy

25:22 Finding the Right Therapist or Coach

25:45 Seasons of Change in Therapy

27:48 The Importance of Community and Mentorship

29:04 Challenges in the Counseling Profession

30:57 Nonprofit Work and Community Support

33:04 Funding and Community Initiatives

36:43 The Role of Wealth in Community Support

42:13 Practical Tips and Personal Stories

49:15 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Transcript
Tyler:

Welcome back to another episode of the Whiskey Wisdom Podcast everyone.

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This is your co-host, Tyler, y'all.

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And today I am with Chris Kellum

and our special guest today is

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Buffy: Buffy Andrews.

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Tyler: Thanks for coming back on again.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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Tyler: We previously had Buffy on, so

you can go back to one of the later

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episodes, learn a little bit more about

her, her practice, and what she does.

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But this time we're bringing Buffy on

to talk about Wellness Without Walls.

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You're a nonprofit, see?

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Chris: Yeah.

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Tyler was like, oh,

we're bringing Buffy on.

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And I'm like, should

she open a new business?

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Like I was Really?

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You never know.

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Honestly,

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Buffy: you never know.

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I could.

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Chris: I'm trying.

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My in-laws were in town this weekend and

I was like, I wanna find this address

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of this building and I can't find it.

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And they're like, why?

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Well, I want to open a bar.

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Do you need to?

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Mm-hmm.

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No, of course.

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Of course you do.

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Of course.

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You never need to open a bar.

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Buffy: Yeah, I guess not.

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Unless

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Tyler: you make some tinctures, right?

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Yeah.

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That you do need when you

open a bar is alcohol.

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So with that being said, Chris,

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Chris: we sip on today.

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So not every bar needs alcohol,

but mine probably will.

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We're drinking, sipping all the

things on one of our favorites.

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And it might be reevaluated,

it might have fallen.

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We'll find out.

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This is bear proof, the

huckleberry flavored whiskey.

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It's from Montana.

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Oh,

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Buffy: interesting.

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Chris: Mm-hmm.

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I know the first I'm very nervous.

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Well, the first, the first time

we got it Jen went traveling out

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that way and grabbed us bottle.

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But it's interesting 'cause it's

like the largest population of.

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Bears is in the Glacier National Park.

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Did you guys know that?

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Did not.

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Oh gosh.

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Buffy: Remind me next time I'm

booking my trip to try to Right.

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Get that bear spray

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Chris: from the Bears, but

Bears love huckleberries.

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So that's why it's called Bear Proof

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Buffy: and maybe don't bring

this whiskey in your backpack.

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Correct.

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So it's not too bear

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Tyler: proof, then you're

kind of bringing bears on.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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That's a misnomer.

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Mm-hmm.

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My favorite way to drink

this is with, yeah.

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I'm gonna forget what it's called now.

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Tea ginger beer.

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Oh yeah.

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Buffy: Okay.

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Tyler: Yep,

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Buffy: I can see that.

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Yeah.

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Oh, whiskey, ginger beer.

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A little Montana mule.

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Mm-hmm.

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Tyler: Exactly.

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Yeah, that's a, I

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Chris: like that.

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Good name for it.

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Mm-hmm.

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So this is just quite literally

a classic whiskey, and then they

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macerate fresh huckleberries.

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You know what that means?

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Nope.

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Buffy: Mm-hmm.

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Surely don't.

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Chris: They literal

just smashing up sounds.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, it sounds like

they're just smashing something, but

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yeah, smash 'em up, get the juice out, and

then mix the juice in with the whiskey.

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Okay.

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And you can definitely

smell the huckleberries.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're this podcast, we've had a

handful of flavored whiskeys but

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this one actually smells the best.

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Yeah.

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Probably the most natural

of all the flavors.

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Natural, the flavored we've had.

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Plantain flavored.

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And we've had plantain flavored.

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Yes, true.

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I forgot about that.

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So interesting.

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Cinnamon fla.

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Like fireball.

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I could get down with cinnamon.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Buffy: But like plantains.

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Yeah.

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What does that really taste like?

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Chris: Bananas.

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Bananas.

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Buffy: It really did.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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You'll

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Chris: have to try it.

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I almost brought a bottle.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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One day.

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Chris: We can't do too

many flavored flavor west.

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No.

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Yeah.

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All right, so we'll try it

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Tyler: and see what you think.

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I'm abstaining from this one.

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It's one of four today.

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Put yours.

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Here you

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Chris: go.

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Oh gosh.

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Cheers.

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That's why he keeps me on.

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'cause I got long arms.

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Oh

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Buffy: man, I'm nervous.

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Oh, you know, that's actually way

smoother than I thought it would be.

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Be,

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Chris: yeah.

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Buffy: Okay.

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Chris: It almost, I think I

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Buffy: might be slowly getting

converted a little bit.

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Right.

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So this is how you do it.

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Chris: This is how I mess with you though.

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'cause they're like, oh, try this.

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Really fun flavored cocktail.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because like the huckleberry

definitely tones it down.

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Mm-hmm.

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So it doesn't taste like a true whiskey.

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Buffy: Yeah, true whiskey

will make me, yeah.

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Do a thing with my face.

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Yeah.

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This didn't, so that was nice.

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Tyler: The other thing that throws

people off with it too, is when you

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smell it, it almost smells like a gin.

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Yeah.

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So you think it has like that

juniper relay Christmas tree days.

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That's exactly why I was nervous, because

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Buffy: I don't love that about gin.

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Chris: See?

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Buffy: this was nice.

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This was better.

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Chris: I almost brought

my favorite gin too.

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You know where that's from?

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Is

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Buffy: it the end of days, Jen?

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Chris: No.

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Oh, it is from Hidden Ships.

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Hidden Ships, that's right.

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Where's that?

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I'm a very citrusy person, CI City.

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Buffy: Oh, okay.

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Yep.

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Chris: Check out our previous episodes.

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We interviewed the owners and

talked about the flavors and

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profiles and how they got that one.

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Buffy: Nice.

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Okay.

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Chris: And talking about people owning

things, starting crazy new adventures.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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Chris: Tell us why you're here today.

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Buffy: Well, I'm here to talk

about Wellness Without Walls.

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Essentially Wellness Without

Walls is a nonprofit.

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I actually started it in 2019.

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When I kind of, the same year I

started my practice I started it

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because, you know, as a mental health

therapist I was giving away a lot

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of pro bono sessions through people.

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I was noticing that there was a lot of

other professionals doing the same thing.

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But we really can't do that

as a profession for too long.

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Right.

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'cause it's.

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It.

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The type of work that we do is

not just like a one-off session.

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Right?

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It's like you're entering into

relationship with people, and so I

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was like, what if we kind of worked

together, created this network of

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providers where we could essentially

still give reimbursed a decent amount,

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but also be able to help people by

giving free or reduced cost sessions.

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So it started out with just

the mental health piece.

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But now we actually have mental health

counseling, nutritional therapy,

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functional medicine life coaching

substance use, recovery coaching.

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So we have quite a few different

types of providers in our network.

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But essentially our goal is just to offer

free and reduced counseling and wellness

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services for people who can't afford it.

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So that would be people who either

don't have insurance or maybe Medicaid,

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Medicare, that's not as widely accepted.

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Chris: Got you.

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Buffy: That kind of thing.

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Okay.

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So, yeah,

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Chris: very.

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Yeah.

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So you mentioned like in general pro bono.

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Mm-hmm.

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Happens in the past.

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Yeah.

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And like currently is still happening.

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But.

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Could you gimme a reason as to like why

you would be giving away a pro bono?

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It's a question.

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Just

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Buffy: usually like if someone

might reach out for something like

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mental health counseling mm-hmm.

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And they either, you know, the provider

that they might need to see maybe doesn't

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take Medicaid, which might be their

insurance, or maybe they just don't have

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insurance, I would help cover a session.

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Or maybe the provider themselves just

doesn't take that type of insurance.

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And a lot of people need certain types

of care with certain types of providers.

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So you know, a lot of providers,

especially, you know, for me,

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I'm, my history is social work.

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That's like my background.

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Yeah.

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My major.

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And so because that's my background,

I'm more inclined to feel this like.

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Pull on my heartstrings, you know,

to help someone out kind of thing.

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It's also part of like our

code of ethics actually, too.

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So, there's a lot of social workers

in our community that we're all

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doing the same thing, so No worries.

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Chris: I'm going back and forth.

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Yeah.

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You're, because that's just

the way my brain thinks.

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I'm gonna ask a totally not

business related question.

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Okay, cool.

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What is your opinion?

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Do they have enough

social workers out there?

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Buffy: Oh gosh, no.

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Chris: Okay.

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Buffy: Yeah, no, I would say, my,

what I've observed in the field is

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that we have a way more what are, you

know, a traditional counselor mm-hmm.

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Coming into the field, which is

fine, but they don't learn the

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same types of things in school.

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They're, they are way more focused,

I feel like, on specific counseling

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theory and counseling, like

interventions and things like that.

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Whereas social work does take a

much broader perspective in terms

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of like systemic issues that

could be happening for someone.

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And you tend to learn a little bit more

about how to think critically about kind

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of why, why did someone get into the

position that they're in in general.

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Whereas I feel like counseling

is more geared towards just

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like, how do I sit with you?

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Here in this okay.

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Issue.

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Does that make sense?

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Chris: Yes.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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Chris: no, I asked that question twofold.

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One, because I was curious as

to why schools have counselors

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and social workers right.

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And that explains it because they mm-hmm.

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They hit two different aspects.

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Lenses of it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Which is very cool.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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And even within social work, you can

do like macro versus micro, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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So, or clinical or not.

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So a, a lot of times you can take that

social work route where it is more of a

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macro and so you might go and to working

at a food bank, or you might, you know,

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working for somewhere where you're

more so advocating for people mm-hmm.

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Versus like sitting and being

the more clinical kind of route.

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Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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So since you were in both of those mm-hmm.

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Positions, what were some of the

things that were more difficult for

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you as a social worker and then more

difficult for you as a counselor?

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Buffy: Hmm.

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That's a really good question.

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I would say as a social worker in general,

some of the difficult pieces is just.

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Getting the community maybe bought

in to how we can really care and walk

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alongside people and making it more

united versus divisive kind of thing.

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I would say that's probably the

hardest from a social work perspective.

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From a counseling perspective, I

think one of the more difficult

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pieces is just a lot of the barriers

in the red tape that come with.

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What you have to do in order to see

someone with their insurance, right?

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So you've got.

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You know, very specific service units,

meaning like, you can only see people

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for, you know, 53 to 60 minutes or 32

to 40, what, you know, is that really?

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And that's how they bill, you

know, sessions and and diagnosing.

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It's just really I don't love it.

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I don't love diagnosing people because

I feel like it was created from like

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a very money driven perspective.

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Versus an actual like, how

are we helping perspective?

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So.

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Chris: No, that makes sense.

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Tyler: Yeah.

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That's two really

interesting perspectives.

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Then taking it from like

the social work side.

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Versus the counseling side.

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Would you say that social work probably

has more access to people that need

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the help and then counselors kind of

have more of like the red tape to get

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through to like actually have that help?

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Buffy: It's hard to say because it

really just depends on where you work,

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like what type of environment you're in.

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You know, so like at, at Madewell,

you know, I'm a social worker,

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but I'm also the counselor, right?

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And so it's the same kind of red tape.

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Whereas, you know, maybe if you are

more so in a community based mental

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health center or wellness center

or something you might have more

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resources to kind of pull from you

know, 'cause maybe you're funded by.

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Medicaid dollars or government

dollars or grants or things like that.

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And so you do kind of have a little

bit more of the resourcing there.

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Whereas like if you're in more of

a private practice type of setting,

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you do have to be a little bit more

creative with your business mindset of

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how do we generate enough revenue to

help cover the cost of certain things.

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Tyler: With Wellness Without Walls, who

is coming to you for those services.

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Mm-hmm.

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And do you reach out to people to provide

the services or a little bit of both?

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Buffy: A little bit of both.

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So, primarily, I mean, really the

people coming to us is really anyone

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who is connected to any of our

providers who maybe reached out to

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one of them and said, oh, you know,

I'd love to come in for counseling.

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Oh, but you don't take my insurance.

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Like, I can't afford that.

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Right, right.

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And so then they kind of get

referred to Wellness Without Walls.

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And it's, I mean, we've had all

types of clients anywhere from.

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Kids in foster care women who are

escaping domestic violence situations

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you know, young 20 somethings who

are just feeling really suicidal.

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Lots of different types of people

because it's really, I mean, it impacts

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everyone across the spectrum, you know?

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That's right.

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And then as far as like reaching out.

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I mean, I don't advertise necessarily,

like, come to Wellness without Walls.

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We can help you because again,

people will come and it's really

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all about how much money we have,

whether or not we can help them.

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So I, I try not to like.

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Promote it super heavy.

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Just because we'll run

outta money really fast.

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Tyler: one of the reasons why we

decided to bring you on to talk

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about it, not necessarily to promote

the service necessary itself.

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Most of the people that listen to our

podcast are going to be like middle

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to upper middle class listeners.

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People you typically are around

our age, like young adults.

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Yeah, some middle age adults.

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And also we do this series,

we started it last year.

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We bring on a a nonprofit mm-hmm.

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In November, leading up to

the giving season of December.

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Yes.

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So that's the reason why

we decided to bring you on.

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Last year we did four.

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That was overwhelming, so we

decided to focus on one this time.

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Well, I appreciate it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So we wanted to let people know what

you do and everything as well too, to

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hopefully bring some people more awareness

of how they can help people with different

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mental illnesses and just different help.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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I mean, it's definitely a huge need.

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Especially with, I mean y'all, I've been

on Facebook the last couple of days and

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I'm in all these like therapist groups.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, Wilmington counselor groups,

mom groups, all kinds of things.

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And there are people posting in there

left and right, right now about, oh

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my goodness, my insurance premium is

going way up and I can't afford this.

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I mean, some of them are

jumping up $500, $600 a month.

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Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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Buffy: Our economic climate is already

really scary for a lot of people.

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And to have something like that

happen, it's like, that's why Wellness

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Without Walls exists, honestly, is

I really value us meeting not just

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people who are on Medicaid dollars.

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Like, okay, there's like

a little net in my face.

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Not just people who are

on Medicaid dollars, but.

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People who are in that

middle class bracket, right?

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Like, I mean personal experience,

my husband did just lose his job.

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We did just lose our

insurance benefits, right?

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So for me to have somewhere where

I could turn where you're able to

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access the different types of care

that you need for free or reduced

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costs is really, really important.

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You know?

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Especially for those in

between times for people.

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And we actually, I took the

federal poverty guidelines.

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I do this 'cause they're, yeah, a joke.

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And I ramp them up.

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So it's, you know, based on your income,

how many people are in your household,

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but it's not just like, oh, you can only

make 15 grand a year in order to qualify.

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Like, it allows people in that middle

bracket to really access the care

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that they need and to really hopefully

integrate care for people too.

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'cause you know, there's some people who

might can afford to go to counseling.

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They can't afford to do the nutritional

therapy piece, or they, maybe they really

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need to go get functional medicine help,

but obviously they can't afford that.

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Like we had a, a woman who was a mom

stay at home mom, but she just had

445

:

like a lot of physical health issues.

446

:

But for her, she like, felt

like it, she was crazy.

447

:

Right.

448

:

And she did an immersion through

our programs and then we connected

449

:

her with functional medicine.

450

:

And the functional medicine

doctor was like, oh my gosh,

451

:

you need to go to urgent care.

452

:

Oh wow.

453

:

Like this is real, your

levels are really bad.

454

:

So, you know, we were able

to catch that 'cause we were

455

:

able to provide that for her.

456

:

Whereas like no other doctor, she's

gone to doctors and they weren't telling

457

:

her anything was wrong, you know?

458

:

And so our functional medicine

doctor was able to find that for her.

459

:

Oh, wow.

460

:

Yeah.

461

:

So it's, you know, it's about

integrating care and it's about living.

462

:

In the, I guess the, the perimeter, right?

463

:

Of like what is normal?

464

:

Tyler: Yeah.

465

:

Right.

466

:

Buffy: Because we also don't have to abide

by standard service units, if you will.

467

:

Because we are primarily

like privately funded.

468

:

We do get a couple of grants, but it

allows us to like recreate the type

469

:

of service we want to offer people.

470

:

So could it be a one hour session?

471

:

Yes.

472

:

But could it be a two hour

session if you need it?

473

:

Yeah.

474

:

Also.

475

:

Yes.

476

:

Right.

477

:

And it will get covered and it will not

be something that is like, oh, sorry.

478

:

Like we don't do that here.

479

:

Book you out three weeks from now.

480

:

Right.

481

:

So my goal is to keep us

away from insurance at all

482

:

costs and just to keep us.

483

:

With the ability to be creative.

484

:

Yeah.

485

:

With what we offer people.

486

:

'cause I believe that that's how you

actually meet people where they're at.

487

:

Tyler: Yeah.

488

:

Yeah.

489

:

Especially on something that

you do too, that I think is

490

:

different is the immersions Yeah.

491

:

That you do.

492

:

So it could be anywhere from like,

you, like the two hours to eight hours.

493

:

Mm-hmm.

494

:

Right.

495

:

Can you go a little bit more

and say exactly how that works?

496

:

Buffy: Yeah, yeah.

497

:

Yeah.

498

:

So, the Breakthrough healing

immersions is what we call them.

499

:

They are a one, two, or three day option.

500

:

If it's a one day, it's five hours at

a time, and then the two and three day.

501

:

Options are about three and a

half to four hours each day.

502

:

I really love the immersions

because I feel like it keeps people

503

:

in the momentum of why they are

there in the first place, right?

504

:

So like a lot of people might sign up

for trauma counseling and then you get

505

:

there and you might, you know, finally

dump out all the things from your trauma,

506

:

but then, oh, your hours up, and then

you have to wait two or three weeks to

507

:

come back to maybe start processing that.

508

:

And inevitably I feel like people

just end up talking about their

509

:

weak and they forget to like,

keep going deep into their trauma.

510

:

And so the healing immersions are

really great because we can kind

511

:

of keep that momentum and like.

512

:

It's really a matter of being like,

Hey, when you come, what are we gonna

513

:

do or talk about or process through

that's gonna feel successful for you?

514

:

And then at the end of that, I give

people what I call a healing guidebook.

515

:

And that Healing guidebook

outlines everything that we've

516

:

talked about during that time.

517

:

Additional resources, podcasts to listen

to, books to listen to or read you know.

518

:

Referrals for other doctors labs.

519

:

I think you should get drawn,

like all kinds of stuff.

520

:

And then I give that to them and then

I do a follow up four to six weeks

521

:

later just to kind of say, okay.

522

:

We did a lot together.

523

:

What are you putting into practice?

524

:

What's actually working for you?

525

:

What's not working for you?

526

:

And then where do I need to continue

to either like, refer you somewhere

527

:

or, you know, we might continue some

more work together kind of thing.

528

:

Yeah.

529

:

So I, I love the immersions 'cause

I feel like it's the you know,

530

:

like if you've ever gone to like a.

531

:

Conference or a retreat or

something and you have all these

532

:

like little nuggets that you walk

away with that you're like Yeah.

533

:

And you remember them

like they stick with you.

534

:

Yeah.

535

:

I feel like immersions do that for

people 'cause it gives them those,

536

:

the opportunity for an aha moment.

537

:

Right.

538

:

You know?

539

:

And I think it just allows your

nervous system enough time and space

540

:

to actually say, okay, like I've got

room here where I can dump out all

541

:

the things that I need to talk about.

542

:

And people are always

surprised when they do them.

543

:

They're like, wow, that

four hours went by so fast.

544

:

Mm-hmm.

545

:

I'm like, yeah,

546

:

Chris: it did.

547

:

Buffy: I told you it would.

548

:

You were nervous.

549

:

You were nervous at first,

but it, it went by fast.

550

:

So, yeah.

551

:

Tyler: So I guess it does make you more

nervous too when you walk into a place

552

:

and, you know, like the times ticking.

553

:

You have one hour to get everything.

554

:

Like, it's amazing how fast one hour is.

555

:

Mm-hmm.

556

:

And then you extrapolate it

over four or five hours, you can

557

:

finally start to get somewhere.

558

:

Buffy: Right.

559

:

And some people just really need

that space to feel fully heard.

560

:

Mm-hmm.

561

:

Right.

562

:

Like sometimes it's not even

about learning some crazy new

563

:

skill or I don't know, like.

564

:

You know, having some sort of technique

that you learn, whatever, right?

565

:

Sometimes it's just about finally feeling

like, man, I was able to get all that

566

:

out and that felt really good, you know?

567

:

Mm-hmm.

568

:

And have someone actually

hear you in it, you know?

569

:

So,

570

:

Chris: so on the, the men's side,

I think, yeah, because we're in

571

:

November, men's awareness is.

572

:

It's men's mental health awareness.

573

:

Tyler: Should we talk

about all year longs?

574

:

Right.

575

:

Just like everything else.

576

:

That Right.

577

:

Just like everything.

578

:

Chris: Do you have the opportunity or

the ability to work with men who mm-hmm.

579

:

Who wanna come in and

get any services done?

580

:

I know you're mostly like, yeah.

581

:

Women driven, but I know everyone.

582

:

Yeah.

583

:

No, actually,

584

:

Buffy: so through my practice

yeah, we have more women.

585

:

Yeah.

586

:

But through Wellness Without

Walls, I've actually done a

587

:

lot of work with a lot of men.

588

:

So it's been really cool 'cause I've

done quite a few immersions with men.

589

:

I actually really love also doing

like business building immersions,

590

:

which I can do through that too.

591

:

Yeah.

592

:

And a lot of men will sign up for that.

593

:

But yeah, so there's definitely, we have

providers, I've got, we actually just

594

:

brought on a life coach who is a man and

who is like in the construction world as

595

:

his like kind of daytime job, but he likes

to do the life coaching piece on the side.

596

:

And so he is all about fitness,

life, coaching, you know,

597

:

all that kind of good stuff.

598

:

And so it's, yeah, we're,

we're adding men providers.

599

:

Like as much as we can.

600

:

There's just not that many out there.

601

:

If we're gonna be

602

:

Chris: There are, yeah.

603

:

I, I just wanted to point that out.

604

:

'cause a lot of guys are like,

well if I wanna go to counseling,

605

:

do I want to talk to a woman?

606

:

Mm-hmm.

607

:

Or do I want to talk to a guy?

608

:

Yeah.

609

:

Which makes me laugh 'cause I was watching

this video the other day and this girl

610

:

was like going to therapy and I talking

to this woman, but I, she was great.

611

:

She just didn't help me because I want

to know why I should have the audacity.

612

:

So she went and found a

men's counselor mm-hmm.

613

:

That worked with her and he like

challenged her thought process and I'm

614

:

like, I think in everything you should

have perspectives from both sides.

615

:

Yeah.

616

:

So you can grow, because

nothing is one sided For sure.

617

:

Yeah.

618

:

So that's why I was, yeah,

619

:

Buffy: yeah, yeah.

620

:

Chris: And then with Wellness

Without Walls, right?

621

:

Mm-hmm.

622

:

So many Ws.

623

:

I love, I know.

624

:

Www I love the alliteration.

625

:

Whiskey

626

:

Tyler: Wisdom Wallace

Without Walls episode.

627

:

See,

628

:

Chris: that's a lot.

629

:

Wow.

630

:

Is that Quint Fives?

631

:

Yeah.

632

:

Can people.

633

:

Donate or assist.

634

:

Yeah.

635

:

And how could they do that?

636

:

Yeah, I'm asking it now, so then we

can also tag it at the back end too.

637

:

Yeah, for

638

:

Buffy: sure.

639

:

So yeah, on our website,

wellness Without walls.co

640

:

you can go on there.

641

:

There's a donate button.

642

:

Feel free to give right on there.

643

:

Also if you're a Pickle baller.

644

:

And you wanna pickleball.

645

:

We have a tournament coming up.

646

:

Mm-hmm.

647

:

November 15th at Pickle and taps.

648

:

So it's that like, oh yeah.

649

:

Indoor pickleball place.

650

:

So if you wanted to join in,

you can join the tournament.

651

:

We're actually doing a 50 50 raffle there.

652

:

So you could win some money and

help support wellness without

653

:

walls and play pickleball all day.

654

:

So if you're into that,

come join November 15th.

655

:

It's like eight to six all day.

656

:

I'll be there.

657

:

Oh, my kids might be there.

658

:

Could be ride, I'm sure

659

:

Chris: Tip.

660

:

It'll be there.

661

:

She's there all the time.

662

:

Oh really?

663

:

She actually

664

:

Buffy: has a wedding, so

she won't be there yet.

665

:

It's so sad.

666

:

But she's helping promote it and stuff.

667

:

So.

668

:

Nice.

669

:

It, yeah.

670

:

Chris: So.

671

:

I just love that.

672

:

Yeah.

673

:

Like in general.

674

:

I still have never played pickleball.

675

:

Do you play?

676

:

Buffy: No.

677

:

Oh no.

678

:

My husband does.

679

:

I'm not a pickle baller.

680

:

I don't have the attention span for it.

681

:

I really don't.

682

:

Chris: I thought it was a short game.

683

:

Oh, it is.

684

:

But they

685

:

Buffy: love to keep playing

and I'm kind of like, cool.

686

:

We did it like.

687

:

I won.

688

:

Let's, let's go, let's

go do something else.

689

:

Tyler: Got you.

690

:

Yeah.

691

:

I, one of the other advisors in the

building with us, he will go and

692

:

he will play for four to six hours.

693

:

Like Yeah.

694

:

What?

695

:

At a, at a day?

696

:

Like at a time.

697

:

And I played with him a few weeks ago,

and after like an hour, I'm like, cool.

698

:

Like this was fun.

699

:

Like, what are we doing now?

700

:

Right.

701

:

And he was like.

702

:

Like, you don't wanna keep going.

703

:

I

704

:

Chris: was

705

:

Tyler: like,

706

:

Chris: well, yeah.

707

:

Well, I guess it makes sense,

like if you go and play pickup

708

:

basketball, you're going for Yeah.

709

:

A few hours.

710

:

Yeah.

711

:

Tyler: Especially tournaments.

712

:

Tournaments usually last, yeah.

713

:

All day.

714

:

Yeah.

715

:

Unless you're bad.

716

:

Oh, we're gonna, yeah, we're

717

:

Buffy: gonna have food

track at the tournament too.

718

:

So there's gonna be Wheels,

pizza and Coastal Carolina.

719

:

Barbecue, surf and turf.

720

:

Nice.

721

:

It's a long name, but but yeah,

they'll, they'll be there.

722

:

And so you can donate

again at the tournament.

723

:

Mm-hmm.

724

:

Purchase some swag, purchase some stickers

or just online Wellness Without walls.co.

725

:

We have a donate button.

726

:

Yeah.

727

:

Chris: Nice.

728

:

Yeah.

729

:

Do you have any like polos?

730

:

Buffy: No.

731

:

Polos.

732

:

We have some comfort color.

733

:

T-shirts.

734

:

Are you into that?

735

:

No.

736

:

Chris: I wish.

737

:

Yeah, they, every time.

738

:

'cause like we wash and mm-hmm.

739

:

Like we hang dry a lot, Uhhuh, but.

740

:

I'm too lazy to hang dry.

741

:

Comfort colors.

742

:

Buffy: Yeah, yeah,

743

:

Chris: yeah.

744

:

And then they shrink and then I'm like,

745

:

Buffy: oh, I've never had that

issue with them shrinking.

746

:

Chris: I'm tall.

747

:

Buffy: Yeah.

748

:

Chris: So like it shrinks

enough for me to notice.

749

:

Yeah, sure.

750

:

And most people are like, oh, it fits.

751

:

And I'm like, that's how I

752

:

Tyler: am.

753

:

I hope everything shrinks.

754

:

I'm put in the hat,

755

:

Chris: you know?

756

:

Always gotta throw out

the random conversations.

757

:

Mm-hmm.

758

:

Tyler: I do have another question.

759

:

Go ahead.

760

:

You mentioned life coach.

761

:

Yeah.

762

:

So what is the difference between

a life coach and like the typical

763

:

counselor you would go see on a,

764

:

Buffy: yeah, so typically a, I'll

just say like coaching in general

765

:

versus counseling in general.

766

:

Mm-hmm.

767

:

Because, because coaching can have

so many different types of coaches.

768

:

Yeah.

769

:

Right.

770

:

But typically the primary difference is

that counselors and therapists, usually.

771

:

Now I'm not gonna like generalize to all

because I'm not like that, but mm-hmm.

772

:

Usually are more past focus, where

it's like, what got you here?

773

:

What are the things that led up to

you being where you're at today?

774

:

Mm-hmm.

775

:

Whereas I feel like coaching in general

is more future oriented and driven.

776

:

Okay.

777

:

So it's a little bit

more on the path of like.

778

:

Okay, here's what's going on.

779

:

But like, how do we get you

where you wanna go faster?

780

:

Right.

781

:

But I do believe that you

really need a blend of both.

782

:

Like if you want to be good at either

one which is why I feel like my personal

783

:

counseling and therapy style is a little

bit more coaching in a lot of ways.

784

:

Mm-hmm.

785

:

But I also have that lens

that says like, but, but why?

786

:

And what caused you to get here?

787

:

Tyler: Right.

788

:

Buffy: But also.

789

:

It's an art.

790

:

It's all an art, you know, whether you're

a coach or a therapist, it's an art form.

791

:

And so there can be really good

coaches and really bad coaches, right?

792

:

There can be really good

therapists, really bad therapists.

793

:

So, you know, you just gotta

know who you're working with.

794

:

Chris: So what you're saying is if you

have a bad experience with therapist.

795

:

You should try somebody different.

796

:

Buffy: Yeah.

797

:

Yeah.

798

:

I mean they they call it like speed

dating, you know, it's like you really

799

:

do have to kind of like try 'em on

and see, see who fits kind of thing.

800

:

And yeah, not every therapist is

for every person, and I feel like

801

:

every, not every therapist or coach

is for every person in every season.

802

:

Right?

803

:

Like, I think there are some

seasons where you might.

804

:

Do really well with one

type of therapist or coach.

805

:

Then there's other seasons where you

just might not, or you might need

806

:

something different from a different one.

807

:

Mm-hmm.

808

:

And that's okay to be like, Hey,

you know what, you helped me a lot.

809

:

Through this thing that I've really

feel like I needed, but like I,

810

:

I think it's time for me to focus

on these other things, right?

811

:

And if your therapist or coach can't

meet you in these other things,

812

:

then you find someone else, you

know, but also you as a client have

813

:

to let them know, I would like to.

814

:

Switch gears here.

815

:

Right.

816

:

You know, or whatever.

817

:

You have to be open up about your goals.

818

:

Mm-hmm.

819

:

And like what you're focusing.

820

:

Right.

821

:

Tyler: Okay.

822

:

Yeah.

823

:

Like I had a performance coach for

a while and it really helped in

824

:

like that season of time for me.

825

:

Right.

826

:

Just kind of get to like the next level.

827

:

Yeah.

828

:

And then at that point I was like,

okay, this is a little like too

829

:

generic for where I need to go now.

830

:

Yeah.

831

:

Like it was a lot of

effort to get to where.

832

:

To where I am now.

833

:

Mm-hmm.

834

:

But knowing like, okay, so that next

push I need to be more specific in

835

:

like the finance realm where I am.

836

:

Mm-hmm.

837

:

Yeah.

838

:

And kind of move towards that, but also

knowing that I couldn't have got to where

839

:

I was without that coach to begin with.

840

:

Right,

841

:

Buffy: exactly.

842

:

Yeah.

843

:

So just

844

:

Tyler: kind of going back and forth

and I'll probably end up going back to

845

:

'em again too for another like Exactly.

846

:

LEAP and stuff.

847

:

Same thing, like let them know.

848

:

Like that's always nice.

849

:

Buffy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

850

:

Yeah.

851

:

Yeah.

852

:

Sorry.

853

:

Chris: See that's what I'm here for.

854

:

Yeah.

855

:

To ask those odd questions.

856

:

Those I love it.

857

:

Get you somewhere.

858

:

Yeah.

859

:

I love it.

860

:

So do you have a coach?

861

:

Buffy: I have used coaches

at different points in time.

862

:

I had a coach last year before

I had my daughter and I had

863

:

her for like six months.

864

:

And then I have a therapist that I'll

see like every month and a half or so.

865

:

So yeah, I'll hire different

people for different things.

866

:

Okay.

867

:

And yeah.

868

:

Yeah.

869

:

Chris: So even people who are

making it still need That's right.

870

:

Yeah.

871

:

Yeah.

872

:

Tyler: Mm-hmm.

873

:

Chris: This is like a running theme.

874

:

Mm-hmm.

875

:

Like that.

876

:

Oh, yeah.

877

:

Thread through everything.

878

:

It's like even though you've hit a

point, you still need assistance.

879

:

Oh yeah.

880

:

In some parts of your life.

881

:

Tyler: Even my performance coach,

who's been known to be one of the top

882

:

performance coaches in the world, he

has two other coaches and a therapist.

883

:

Buffy: Right?

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

In order to keep going ahead, it's, it's

kind of like, I don't know, I just feel

886

:

like in our world, this may be getting

too philosophical or deep, but here we go.

887

:

I just feel like in our world we've

lost a little bit of the whole like.

888

:

Communal living and you

know, all that kind of stuff.

889

:

And I think with the loss of that

comes a loss of things like mentorship.

890

:

Tyler: Mm-hmm.

891

:

Buffy: Accountability, you

know, responsibility for

892

:

a lot of different things.

893

:

And so our, our friends aren't

always gonna cut it when it comes

894

:

to being able to offer those things.

895

:

I feel like used to, back in the day,

you, you know, you could survive without

896

:

your therapist 'cause you like lived in

the community where you had the like.

897

:

Family, you know, doctor that would

go around and meet with everyone or,

898

:

or whatever, you know, but it just

doesn't happen like that anymore.

899

:

And so you really do have to kind of

outsource some of that, especially

900

:

if you're not gonna be in a friend

group that's willing to go there

901

:

with you on those kind of things.

902

:

So, yeah,

903

:

Chris: I think that's also something to

think about, like in general, like mm-hmm.

904

:

Not every, just like, every

counselor's not good for everything

905

:

and not every friend is meant

to be with you for every season.

906

:

Sure.

907

:

Of your progression.

908

:

Yeah.

909

:

Buffy: Yeah.

910

:

Chris: Which is kind of hard to think.

911

:

Buffy: It is.

912

:

It's a little sad.

913

:

Chris: Mm-hmm.

914

:

Buffy: But it's real and we have

to like learn how to grieve that.

915

:

Yes.

916

:

You know, because it is sad.

917

:

Tyler: I always feel like it would be

hard, like for me personally, to be

918

:

like in a counseling position, right.

919

:

Because of having like the

sympathy and the empathy and as

920

:

one side of it, and then two like.

921

:

For me, I feel like I would wear a

lot of what people dump on me too.

922

:

So I feel like mm-hmm.

923

:

The probably important to also have

another therapist like to talk to.

924

:

Right.

925

:

Just like to go through that or I also

know I'm not cut out for that job.

926

:

Yeah.

927

:

So like, is that something that

actually is like an issue is like

928

:

just hearing like problems all the

time And are you good at just like,

929

:

you know what, this stays here 'cause

like I could do that in my job here.

930

:

I walk out and I really don't care what

the market did like four hours prior.

931

:

Right, right.

932

:

Yeah.

933

:

Like is it the same thing for

you that you're able to do?

934

:

Buffy: Yeah.

935

:

I think you kind of get to that place.

936

:

You, I think as a very new

therapist, it's not as easy to do.

937

:

Mm-hmm.

938

:

'Cause you just don't know and

you don't have the experience.

939

:

But once you've been in the, I mean, I've

been in the field for like 12 years now.

940

:

And so I feel like once you've been

in the field for that long, you learn,

941

:

you do learn how to recognize, like I

can only help people to the extent that

942

:

they're willing to help themselves.

943

:

Right, right.

944

:

So for one.

945

:

I guess I would say a healthy

therapist can do that.

946

:

Right?

947

:

Right.

948

:

Sure.

949

:

Like a healthy person knows that they are

not responsible for all the things that

950

:

are happening in someone's life, right?

951

:

Like that person is responsible for that.

952

:

Now, are there certain situations

and things that are shared

953

:

with me that are kind of, you

know, more devastating or sad?

954

:

Of course.

955

:

But yeah, that is where it's like,

it's good to be able to talk about

956

:

it or even just like, yeah, have

a trusted person that you can kind

957

:

of go to and be like, oh my gosh.

958

:

Like, I can't believe this happened.

959

:

But it also, I think for me, I think

something that I love about my job is that

960

:

it keeps me humble and it keeps me like in

the know of what people are experiencing.

961

:

Meaning like societally, right?

962

:

Yeah.

963

:

Right.

964

:

And, I think having that awareness

is what drives me a little bit in

965

:

terms of how I pursue helping people.

966

:

Right.

967

:

And how I pursue, like growing the

nonprofit, making sure that we are

968

:

taking care of the needs that are there

and not just like, you know, speaking

969

:

from my ivory tower kind of thing.

970

:

Mm-hmm.

971

:

And, and being like, yeah, we

should change this, this and this.

972

:

It's like, no, I actually do have

an awareness of what people need.

973

:

'cause I'm meeting with

people all the time.

974

:

Yeah, right.

975

:

You know, so.

976

:

Chris: Yeah.

977

:

And I think that's great for being.

978

:

In the position you're at.

979

:

'cause a lot of times people

making these grand gestures

980

:

with these nonprofits or mm-hmm.

981

:

Like just across the board Yeah.

982

:

Aren't connected with Right.

983

:

Like that lower level.

984

:

Yeah.

985

:

So they're making

concepts and ideas mm-hmm.

986

:

Without actually seeing how it's

affecting or who is affected by it.

987

:

Yeah.

988

:

Buffy: Yeah.

989

:

And I've like even just hearing our.

990

:

Our community.

991

:

It's like we have a lot of resources

that are really great and, and do

992

:

really collaborate well and keep

a good, you know, unified front.

993

:

Mm-hmm.

994

:

But there's also, yeah, a lot of things

that are not funded like Wellness

995

:

Without Walls, because we're not

necessarily saying, yeah, I'm serving

996

:

just the homeless population or like,

like these extreme populations, right?

997

:

Like, yes, we are, we are serving homeless

people 'cause we have and we will.

998

:

Tyler: Yeah.

999

:

Buffy: But we are also serving.

:

00:32:11,005 --> 00:32:15,205

All the other people that come through

our doors that are in, just like, you

:

00:32:15,205 --> 00:32:16,855

know, we're all kind of one paycheck away.

:

00:32:16,855 --> 00:32:16,945

Right.

:

00:32:16,945 --> 00:32:20,965

From again, losing our benefits

or losing our housing, or

:

00:32:21,145 --> 00:32:23,125

losing our ability to have food.

:

00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:24,955

You know, subsidies now, right?

:

00:32:24,955 --> 00:32:25,014

Yeah.

:

00:32:25,014 --> 00:32:28,465

Like, I mean, all these things are

coming down the pipeline and there's

:

00:32:28,465 --> 00:32:32,905

a lot of people scared and a lot of

people in need, and a lot of people that

:

00:32:32,905 --> 00:32:34,435

are gonna have mental health crises.

:

00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:37,000

N next week.

:

00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:37,420

Right?

:

00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:39,700

Because they've lacked

food all week this week.

:

00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,210

Right.

:

00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:44,020

And so it's just one of those things

like we, we can't forget that.

:

00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:46,780

It's like, it's not just

one extreme or the other.

:

00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:50,290

There's a lot of people in the

middle areas that also need care

:

00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:54,310

and support and we actually make

up the majority of our community.

:

00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:54,850

Right?

:

00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:54,910

Yeah.

:

00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:58,900

The middle, middle class, ground

middle person makes up the majority

:

00:32:59,090 --> 00:33:00,260

and they're often forgotten.

:

00:33:00,590 --> 00:33:04,160

So I want Wellness without walls to

be able to make sure we step in there.

:

00:33:04,340 --> 00:33:04,520

Yeah.

:

00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:07,190

Tyler: I found out recently that there's

quite a few people that are part of.

:

00:33:08,495 --> 00:33:12,285

Wilmington City Council or New

Hanford County commissioners

:

00:33:12,285 --> 00:33:13,575

that listen to our podcast.

:

00:33:13,575 --> 00:33:15,795

So if there's something you could

tell them, hate commissioner,

:

00:33:17,264 --> 00:33:18,975

that could help either, oh gosh.

:

00:33:18,975 --> 00:33:21,555

Using either one of the lenses

that you've had in your past,

:

00:33:21,555 --> 00:33:22,575

like, Hey, you know what?

:

00:33:22,575 --> 00:33:25,215

This is something that I've noticed

that I think that you could push

:

00:33:25,215 --> 00:33:27,195

out and would be a good benefit.

:

00:33:27,645 --> 00:33:28,035

Buffy: Yeah.

:

00:33:28,035 --> 00:33:33,085

I think if you are a commissioner, work

for the county, work for the government.

:

00:33:33,565 --> 00:33:40,585

You say that you are about creativity

within, like how we help and serve people.

:

00:33:40,585 --> 00:33:45,875

If you say that you are all about new

initiatives that are designed to, you

:

00:33:45,875 --> 00:33:50,585

know, meet people in the middle, whatever,

like put your money where your mouth

:

00:33:50,585 --> 00:33:55,845

is because I've seen a lot of things

where people say they're about mental

:

00:33:55,845 --> 00:33:59,445

health and they won't serve something

like Wellness without Walls because.

:

00:34:00,215 --> 00:34:03,005

For, maybe we haven't been

around long enough, I don't know.

:

00:34:03,335 --> 00:34:07,775

But when there's people who are saying

that they are willing to help serve

:

00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:12,875

the community, support them, that's,

I just think like bottom line, that's

:

00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:16,775

where we have to get as a community

is like, someone over here is saying,

:

00:34:16,775 --> 00:34:21,155

Hey, I wanna support, I wanna do

this thing to serve this community.

:

00:34:21,574 --> 00:34:24,935

I think we should step up as a

community and meet them there and

:

00:34:24,935 --> 00:34:28,114

say, Hey, you may not have the

funding, but I've got the funding.

:

00:34:28,114 --> 00:34:28,895

Let me back you.

:

00:34:28,895 --> 00:34:30,545

Let's come alongside you in this.

:

00:34:30,844 --> 00:34:34,145

Even if the funding comes with, I mean,

there's a lot of grants and stuff out

:

00:34:34,145 --> 00:34:36,125

there, right, that have rules or mm-hmm.

:

00:34:36,635 --> 00:34:39,965

Guidelines of how you're supposed to spend

the money, and if that funding comes with

:

00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:41,705

strings like that, sometimes that's okay.

:

00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:42,094

Right.

:

00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:45,219

Because we, we understand like,

hey, this is your money guy,

:

00:34:45,850 --> 00:34:46,000

Tyler: right?

:

00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:47,230

Buffy: Like, I got it.

:

00:34:47,530 --> 00:34:52,370

But we also have to, I think

not not forego the little people

:

00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,570

kind of deal because I think the

little people become big people.

:

00:34:56,570 --> 00:34:56,659

Mm-hmm.

:

00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:58,620

With or without your help.

:

00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:03,930

And if we can have a community that

really supports one another, it speaks

:

00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:06,930

volumes and it just goes so much further.

:

00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:08,480

And I feel like, yeah.

:

00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,220

It just, it makes everything better.

:

00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,770

Like, it just makes me so

happy, like thinking that people

:

00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:14,360

could come together that well.

:

00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:20,009

But as it sits, it feels like, you

know, I don't, I don't really know.

:

00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:21,959

I don't really know how to

describe like, what it is.

:

00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:23,639

There's some sort of divide there.

:

00:35:23,849 --> 00:35:23,999

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:35:24,059 --> 00:35:27,149

Buffy: And it's hard to like, kind of put

your finger on it 'cause you're like, I,

:

00:35:27,149 --> 00:35:29,459

I've got the infrastructure here set up.

:

00:35:29,609 --> 00:35:29,699

Mm-hmm.

:

00:35:30,029 --> 00:35:31,049

I've got the resources.

:

00:35:31,049 --> 00:35:34,379

I've created this whole like

structure and flow and system.

:

00:35:35,414 --> 00:35:37,364

Why would we not work together?

:

00:35:37,604 --> 00:35:37,964

You know?

:

00:35:37,964 --> 00:35:40,514

Or why would we try to reinvent

the wheel and create something

:

00:35:40,514 --> 00:35:42,104

else different that, you know?

:

00:35:42,344 --> 00:35:42,404

Yeah.

:

00:35:42,504 --> 00:35:43,794

So yeah, I

:

00:35:43,794 --> 00:35:44,004

Tyler: guess

:

00:35:44,004 --> 00:35:44,304

Buffy: that's my

:

00:35:44,304 --> 00:35:44,694

Tyler: 2 cents.

:

00:35:45,504 --> 00:35:45,804

Awesome.

:

00:35:45,804 --> 00:35:46,134

Thank you.

:

00:35:46,374 --> 00:35:46,914

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:35:47,064 --> 00:35:47,934

Chris: So yeah, I agree with you.

:

00:35:47,934 --> 00:35:52,734

'cause I've been thinking and not

just right now, which happens a lot.

:

00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:53,599

Chris does that from time to time.

:

00:35:53,724 --> 00:35:54,024

Yes.

:

00:35:54,114 --> 00:35:55,704

I've been thinking for

the last five seconds.

:

00:35:55,884 --> 00:35:56,274

Yeah.

:

00:35:56,964 --> 00:35:58,959

You surprised how many thoughts

I have in five seconds.

:

00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:01,734

But like in general, yeah.

:

00:36:01,734 --> 00:36:08,904

One, we were talking recently like Hanover

County needs more like police presence,

:

00:36:09,594 --> 00:36:11,454

not because they need to be there too.

:

00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:14,379

Fix something after, but to

fix something beforehand.

:

00:36:14,409 --> 00:36:14,559

Yeah.

:

00:36:14,769 --> 00:36:14,859

Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:15,099 --> 00:36:18,699

Which also, I think that

they should be hand in hand.

:

00:36:18,699 --> 00:36:18,819

Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:19,059 --> 00:36:20,499

With getting more social workers.

:

00:36:20,529 --> 00:36:20,769

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:24,519

Chris: The problem is y'all

just like teachers and police

:

00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,699

officers and firefighters, like

the people who the community

:

00:36:27,699 --> 00:36:30,009

needs one, don't get paid enough.

:

00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:30,309

No.

:

00:36:30,369 --> 00:36:34,629

And two, the education part of it costs

so much that they're so far in debt.

:

00:36:34,689 --> 00:36:35,324

Right, right.

:

00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:37,274

And I'm just saying, I just

wish there was a way to get.

:

00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:38,809

Better funding.

:

00:36:38,869 --> 00:36:39,049

Yeah.

:

00:36:39,049 --> 00:36:41,479

To help these, which would

then help the communities.

:

00:36:41,479 --> 00:36:41,569

Right.

:

00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:42,739

And then you would grow better.

:

00:36:42,769 --> 00:36:43,009

Yeah.

:

00:36:43,099 --> 00:36:43,819

Buffy: Oh, for sure.

:

00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:47,959

And that's like, you know, if you

are someone out there listening that

:

00:36:47,959 --> 00:36:53,749

has deep pockets, I just, I do really

firmly believe that we can build

:

00:36:53,749 --> 00:36:56,449

a system outside of the red tape.

:

00:36:56,509 --> 00:36:56,599

Tyler: Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:57,914

Buffy: That works really well.

:

00:36:58,094 --> 00:36:58,514

Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:58,814 --> 00:37:02,174

And it does just take,

it takes like one good.

:

00:37:02,234 --> 00:37:07,004

Private funded person to like step up

and be like, Hey, I believe in you.

:

00:37:07,214 --> 00:37:08,474

Let's make this happen.

:

00:37:08,724 --> 00:37:10,494

Because it can change

the trajectory, right?

:

00:37:10,494 --> 00:37:14,334

Because even for a nonprofit, right,

it's like if we could get one good

:

00:37:14,334 --> 00:37:18,354

grant that's like a capacity grant

that allows us to spend our dollars on

:

00:37:18,744 --> 00:37:21,534

infrastructure and building the nonprofit.

:

00:37:21,699 --> 00:37:21,759

Yeah.

:

00:37:22,359 --> 00:37:25,539

Then we can like actually

exponentially increase how many

:

00:37:25,539 --> 00:37:26,739

people we're supposed to help.

:

00:37:26,799 --> 00:37:27,289

Right, right.

:

00:37:27,529 --> 00:37:30,679

But as it sits, we're like fighting

for one grant after the other.

:

00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:32,479

That's like for a program.

:

00:37:32,479 --> 00:37:32,569

Mm-hmm.

:

00:37:33,229 --> 00:37:34,129

Which is needed.

:

00:37:34,129 --> 00:37:38,119

Like I need those dollars for those

programs, but those dollars don't actually

:

00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,329

go as far as like, if we were to say,

hey, let's, like even if I could just

:

00:37:41,329 --> 00:37:46,399

hire one therapist, that can be my go-to

therapist that we like put people with.

:

00:37:46,489 --> 00:37:46,579

Mm-hmm.

:

00:37:46,819 --> 00:37:49,339

That in and of itself, you

know, would change the game.

:

00:37:50,089 --> 00:37:50,149

Yeah.

:

00:37:50,149 --> 00:37:50,239

Right.

:

00:37:50,449 --> 00:37:50,809

So.

:

00:37:51,859 --> 00:37:52,189

Yeah.

:

00:37:52,939 --> 00:37:56,629

Tyler: I'll have to fact check

myself on this just to double verify.

:

00:37:56,689 --> 00:37:56,989

Okay.

:

00:37:57,229 --> 00:38:01,729

But I heard somewhere that just New

Hanover County, all the elections

:

00:38:01,729 --> 00:38:05,449

that are coming up, $250,000

was spent on those elections.

:

00:38:05,869 --> 00:38:08,539

Like we talked about this

during the President.

:

00:38:08,539 --> 00:38:10,854

Not that much for just

City eight is a lot.

:

00:38:11,659 --> 00:38:13,669

Buffy: And it's all those dang yard signs.

:

00:38:13,819 --> 00:38:13,909

I know.

:

00:38:14,299 --> 00:38:14,599

Yeah.

:

00:38:14,644 --> 00:38:16,374

It's all the stuff that

makes, it's all those things.

:

00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:20,359

Tyler: We talked about this when it was

the presidential election and it was like,

:

00:38:20,394 --> 00:38:21,734

Buffy: oh no, I don't even wanna know.

:

00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:22,214

Tyler: Billions of dollars.

:

00:38:22,214 --> 00:38:22,374

Yes.

:

00:38:22,454 --> 00:38:23,014

I don't even wanna know.

:

00:38:23,084 --> 00:38:23,374

Like

:

00:38:23,539 --> 00:38:24,019

Buffy: I can't.

:

00:38:24,019 --> 00:38:28,969

Tyler: But even $250,000 just on three

seats in the city council of Wilmington.

:

00:38:29,149 --> 00:38:29,239

Mm-hmm.

:

00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,269

That's stupid amount of money

to get three people elected.

:

00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:32,449

Mm-hmm.

:

00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:35,149

Like I just think about all of

the good things people could have

:

00:38:35,149 --> 00:38:36,559

done with those donated dollars.

:

00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,719

Yeah, I know that's, and I'm not trying,

:

00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,459

Buffy: yeah, I'm not trying

to like knock politicians.

:

00:38:40,459 --> 00:38:41,869

We obviously need them.

:

00:38:41,869 --> 00:38:42,379

Right.

:

00:38:43,549 --> 00:38:44,599

To a degree.

:

00:38:46,089 --> 00:38:50,829

But yeah, but there's so many things like

that where it's like, what if we all just

:

00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:54,129

ran, I mean, wild thought time, right?

:

00:38:54,129 --> 00:39:00,429

It's like, what if we all just ran our

businesses or our po political campaigns

:

00:39:00,429 --> 00:39:04,869

or whatever on like a percentage based

kind of spectrum where you say, okay.

:

00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:09,909

X percent of money coming in for this

campaign goes towards the campaign.

:

00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:14,559

X percent goes towards giving back

in whatever way, shape, or form.

:

00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:14,739

Yeah.

:

00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:17,559

I feel like that's just how

I've always run my life.

:

00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:21,399

I mean, even like being a part of the

church, it's like 10% of your income

:

00:39:21,399 --> 00:39:24,699

like goes back to the church and

whatever capacity to help grow it.

:

00:39:24,699 --> 00:39:25,119

Right.

:

00:39:25,689 --> 00:39:26,199

And.

:

00:39:27,069 --> 00:39:30,069

I run my business like that, I

give a percentage of my business.

:

00:39:30,099 --> 00:39:34,239

Even within the nonprofit, every dollar

that we have come in, I have it divided up

:

00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,099

to say X percent goes towards programming,

X percent is gonna go towards structure

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00:39:39,099 --> 00:39:41,439

and, and growth and software that we need.

:

00:39:41,439 --> 00:39:41,499

Yeah.

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00:39:41,809 --> 00:39:45,349

And then X percent we're gonna be able to

give back in whatever way, shape, or form.

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00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:45,589

Right.

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00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:49,789

And so I just think it like, what

if everything was run like that?

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00:39:49,969 --> 00:39:50,089

Chris: Right.

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00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:52,129

Buffy: That would change things.

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00:39:52,219 --> 00:39:52,549

Chris: Yeah.

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00:39:52,549 --> 00:39:54,049

But then we wouldn't have billionaires.

:

00:39:55,624 --> 00:39:57,064

People just striving for power.

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00:39:57,604 --> 00:39:58,054

Yeah.

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00:39:59,699 --> 00:40:00,059

Buffy: I can't,

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00:40:00,299 --> 00:40:01,099

Chris: billionaires.

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00:40:01,279 --> 00:40:01,859

No, I do.

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00:40:01,919 --> 00:40:02,979

Unless you're a billionaire

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00:40:02,979 --> 00:40:03,899

Buffy: that wants to partner with me.

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00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:04,419

Chris: Right.

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00:40:05,104 --> 00:40:09,724

No, I, I laugh because me and my wife

literally send videos back and forth

:

00:40:09,724 --> 00:40:14,704

all the time, and Billy Eilish was

at some event Oh, he hasn't saw that.

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00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:14,794

Yes.

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00:40:14,799 --> 00:40:15,139

And she was like.

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00:40:15,979 --> 00:40:20,209

Yeah, there's a lot of y'all and yes,

I'm sure like billionaires donate money.

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00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:20,809

Of course.

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00:40:20,899 --> 00:40:21,259

Yeah.

:

00:40:21,289 --> 00:40:22,044

Somewhere, some shape or form.

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00:40:22,074 --> 00:40:22,364

It's

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00:40:22,364 --> 00:40:23,444

Buffy: a tax runoff, you know?

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00:40:23,844 --> 00:40:24,244

Mm-hmm.

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00:40:25,144 --> 00:40:28,549

Chris: And then I went down the rabbit

hole of like, yes, they donate money, but

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00:40:28,579 --> 00:40:32,989

it's usually to some charity that they

control, which then doesn't get anywhere.

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00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:35,929

But I just laughed at like some girl.

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00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:39,349

Young person went and was like,

y'all should donate money.

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00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:40,399

And then was like, all right, cool.

:

00:40:40,399 --> 00:40:43,909

Here's my checkbook, and

like drops over $10 million.

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00:40:43,969 --> 00:40:44,089

Yeah.

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00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:45,679

As donations to help people.

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00:40:45,709 --> 00:40:46,009

Yeah.

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00:40:46,249 --> 00:40:46,969

And I'm like,

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00:40:47,389 --> 00:40:47,929

Buffy: yeah,

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00:40:48,379 --> 00:40:50,599

Chris: we don't need billionaires.

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00:40:51,529 --> 00:40:51,619

Right.

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00:40:51,619 --> 00:40:57,439

Or someone approaching a trillionaire

like that money could be spent helping.

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00:40:58,429 --> 00:40:58,579

Buffy: Yeah.

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00:40:58,579 --> 00:41:00,739

'cause it's like at the end of the

day, you can't take it with you.

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00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:04,354

You know, like you can leave

it to people behind you.

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00:41:04,354 --> 00:41:04,414

Yeah.

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00:41:04,534 --> 00:41:04,624

Chris: Mm-hmm.

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00:41:04,864 --> 00:41:05,404

Buffy: Sure.

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00:41:05,404 --> 00:41:09,154

And if that's your goal, if your

goal is like to be a billionaire

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00:41:09,154 --> 00:41:10,864

so that you can like leave.

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00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:12,979

Enough behind you.

:

00:41:12,979 --> 00:41:13,249

Yeah.

:

00:41:13,249 --> 00:41:17,089

That you have a legacy or a foundation

that does support, you know, X, y, z.

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00:41:17,569 --> 00:41:18,139

Great.

:

00:41:18,139 --> 00:41:18,769

That's wonderful.

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00:41:18,769 --> 00:41:18,829

Yeah.

:

00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,119

You know, but yeah, just to have

it and like buy 19 cars that

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00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,729

you can't, you don't even drive

yourself 'cause you have a driver.

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00:41:25,729 --> 00:41:26,269

Like true.

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,789

What I'm guessing I don't understand.

:

00:41:28,819 --> 00:41:33,439

I mean, somebody enlighten me if, if

there is a very good purpose for that.

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00:41:33,889 --> 00:41:34,729

I'm all ears.

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00:41:34,789 --> 00:41:34,939

Yeah.

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00:41:35,389 --> 00:41:38,269

Chris: I'd understand if they were

like trying to build pyramids again.

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00:41:39,769 --> 00:41:41,539

I was like, I think

that'd be kind of cool.

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00:41:41,539 --> 00:41:42,979

Like, oh, you have all this money.

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00:41:43,309 --> 00:41:43,459

Yeah.

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00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:44,449

You're building a pyramid.

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00:41:44,449 --> 00:41:45,719

You're, you build ton of things.

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,309

Ton of the world or something.

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00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:46,729

Let's roll.

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00:41:46,759 --> 00:41:47,209

Yeah.

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00:41:47,269 --> 00:41:48,559

Tyler: Well, the aliens did that.

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00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:49,189

Chris,

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00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:54,109

Chris: I don't even care if I'm just

saying, I, I just, that'd be the one

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00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:57,469

of the few times where I'd be like,

okay, yeah, that's kind of cool.

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00:41:57,619 --> 00:41:57,979

Yeah.

:

00:41:58,099 --> 00:41:59,359

Do I still think you need that money?

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00:41:59,629 --> 00:41:59,899

No.

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00:42:00,649 --> 00:42:00,919

Buffy: Right.

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00:42:01,699 --> 00:42:01,939

Yeah.

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00:42:02,359 --> 00:42:02,479

Chris: Yeah.

:

00:42:02,479 --> 00:42:03,289

I just wanna survive.

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00:42:04,579 --> 00:42:04,969

Buffy: Amen.

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00:42:05,929 --> 00:42:06,049

Yes.

:

00:42:06,049 --> 00:42:06,349

Talk about that.

:

00:42:06,374 --> 00:42:08,599

And, and everyone who comes

to Wellness Without Walls is

:

00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:09,799

also just trying to survive.

:

00:42:09,889 --> 00:42:12,619

See, you know, there's a

lot of us out there, so.

:

00:42:13,189 --> 00:42:16,099

Chris: And how can people 'cause

your website's a little different.

:

00:42:16,339 --> 00:42:16,609

Mm-hmm.

:

00:42:16,849 --> 00:42:18,739

Because it's missing an M, right?

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00:42:18,979 --> 00:42:19,249

Buffy: Yeah.

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00:42:19,249 --> 00:42:20,989

There is no m it is.co.

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00:42:20,989 --> 00:42:21,199

Okay.

:

00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:22,849

not.com.

:

00:42:22,909 --> 00:42:24,559

So wellness, 'cause I think the.com

:

00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,799

was taken, so I was like, what do we do?

:

00:42:27,799 --> 00:42:28,489

Board?

:

00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:29,569

We've gotta do something.

:

00:42:30,569 --> 00:42:32,699

But yes, wellness Without walls.co.

:

00:42:32,749 --> 00:42:34,789

There's a donate button on there.

:

00:42:35,034 --> 00:42:35,964

You can donate on there.

:

00:42:35,964 --> 00:42:40,194

Also, if you're someone who is in need of

services, there's a new client interest

:

00:42:40,194 --> 00:42:43,404

form on there that you can fill out,

and then we respond to you, let you know

:

00:42:43,404 --> 00:42:45,264

what we have, what you're eligible for.

:

00:42:45,809 --> 00:42:48,449

And we connect you with a

provider all through the website.

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:48,959

Yeah.

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00:42:49,289 --> 00:42:49,679

Chris: I love it.

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00:42:49,739 --> 00:42:49,949

Buffy: Yeah.

:

00:42:50,009 --> 00:42:52,889

Chris: The unfortunate thing is that

I won't be able to go play pickleball.

:

00:42:53,849 --> 00:42:54,089

Aw, man.

:

00:42:54,149 --> 00:42:57,839

Mostly because I have a retail

job and I don't get weekends off.

:

00:42:58,589 --> 00:42:58,709

Sure.

:

00:42:58,949 --> 00:43:01,649

And secondly, because

don't play because Yeah.

:

00:43:01,649 --> 00:43:03,599

What is pickleball, but there's

:

00:43:03,629 --> 00:43:05,069

Tyler: other ways for

you to support Chris.

:

00:43:05,074 --> 00:43:05,374

That's

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00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:05,454

Buffy: right.

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00:43:05,464 --> 00:43:05,814

Right.

:

00:43:06,294 --> 00:43:06,494

Yeah.

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00:43:06,689 --> 00:43:07,679

Chris: That's what I'll be doing.

:

00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:08,699

Buffy: That's what you'll be doing.

:

00:43:08,969 --> 00:43:13,124

Also, we did just create a Venmo at

Wellness Without Walls, so if you wanna

:

00:43:13,294 --> 00:43:16,169

Venmo us, I like that you can do that too.

:

00:43:16,379 --> 00:43:19,979

It took me literally way too many

hours on Facebook and PayPal giving.

:

00:43:19,979 --> 00:43:20,819

Let me just say.

:

00:43:21,509 --> 00:43:24,929

They don't make a Venmo it easy for

charity to get that stuff figured out.

:

00:43:24,929 --> 00:43:24,989

No.

:

00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:28,799

I was like, why is this the

most complicated and cumbersome

:

00:43:28,799 --> 00:43:30,629

project that I've ever undertaken?

:

00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:31,199

That's wild.

:

00:43:31,259 --> 00:43:31,709

They want you to

:

00:43:31,889 --> 00:43:34,949

Chris: do, 'cause then if you do Venmo,

then you can do paperwork for it and

:

00:43:34,949 --> 00:43:36,659

be like, yo, I got this kind of money.

:

00:43:36,869 --> 00:43:36,959

Mm-hmm.

:

00:43:37,499 --> 00:43:39,179

But yeah, it's so silly.

:

00:43:39,209 --> 00:43:39,959

Buffy: It's a lot.

:

00:43:39,959 --> 00:43:40,259

Chris: Yeah.

:

00:43:40,439 --> 00:43:40,769

Buffy: But yeah.

:

00:43:40,799 --> 00:43:42,509

Venmo at Wellness Without Walls.

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00:43:43,049 --> 00:43:43,289

Chris: Alright.

:

00:43:43,649 --> 00:43:44,009

I down see you now.

:

00:43:44,009 --> 00:43:44,159

So I'm

:

00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:45,479

Buffy: trying to make

it easy for you guys.

:

00:43:45,509 --> 00:43:45,539

Okay.

:

00:43:46,349 --> 00:43:48,749

Chris: But then how do we

get the write off form for?

:

00:43:49,019 --> 00:43:50,789

Buffy: Well, we mail your receipt, huh?

:

00:43:50,849 --> 00:43:51,839

Yep, bet.

:

00:43:51,899 --> 00:43:53,219

Yeah, no problem.

:

00:43:53,369 --> 00:43:54,329

So we have that.

:

00:43:54,329 --> 00:43:57,839

Part of our work that we have to

do is at the end of the year who

:

00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:00,659

gave, we make all those giving

receipts and we send them out.

:

00:44:00,749 --> 00:44:03,239

Tyler: So this isn't

financial advice, but.

:

00:44:04,019 --> 00:44:07,679

Even if you take the standard deduction,

you can still get $2,000 to use

:

00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,449

towards your write offs as well too.

:

00:44:09,509 --> 00:44:11,339

So that was part of the

one big beautiful bill.

:

00:44:11,764 --> 00:44:11,984

Buffy: Oh,

:

00:44:12,214 --> 00:44:12,504

Tyler: okay.

:

00:44:13,204 --> 00:44:15,809

So even with the standard deduction,

you can still give and get some

:

00:44:15,809 --> 00:44:17,069

of your money back in the year.

:

00:44:17,069 --> 00:44:17,129

You

:

00:44:17,129 --> 00:44:21,299

Chris: can still give $2,000

and get some of it back.

:

00:44:21,299 --> 00:44:22,979

Get some of it back from the government.

:

00:44:22,979 --> 00:44:23,189

Yeah.

:

00:44:23,219 --> 00:44:23,369

Cool.

:

00:44:23,399 --> 00:44:23,879

Buffy: Okay.

:

00:44:23,969 --> 00:44:24,929

You heard it first?

:

00:44:25,529 --> 00:44:25,769

Chris: Yep.

:

00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:26,339

Cool.

:

00:44:26,714 --> 00:44:28,184

If you don't wanna give it to

her, you can give it to me.

:

00:44:28,754 --> 00:44:30,359

You don't get the write off

and then he'll pass it along.

:

00:44:32,289 --> 00:44:33,119

He'll get the write off.

:

00:44:35,654 --> 00:44:39,344

I'm just saying, isn't that what

big businesses do when they got that

:

00:44:39,644 --> 00:44:41,354

kind of, we're not gonna argue this.

:

00:44:42,314 --> 00:44:43,784

But thank you for coming on.

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00:44:43,934 --> 00:44:43,994

Buffy: Yeah.

:

00:44:44,084 --> 00:44:44,999

Thank you guys for having me.

:

00:44:44,999 --> 00:44:45,164

One of

:

00:44:45,164 --> 00:44:46,514

Chris: my last questions for you.

:

00:44:46,574 --> 00:44:46,814

Buffy: Yeah.

:

00:44:47,654 --> 00:44:48,344

Chris: What'd you think?

:

00:44:48,674 --> 00:44:50,474

Buffy: Oh, I was actually very impressed.

:

00:44:50,474 --> 00:44:50,484

Yeah.

:

00:44:50,564 --> 00:44:50,804

Yeah.

:

00:44:50,804 --> 00:44:52,364

I really am not a whiskey girl.

:

00:44:52,529 --> 00:44:52,769

I know.

:

00:44:52,879 --> 00:44:55,304

After the last time, but I have been.

:

00:44:55,949 --> 00:44:58,889

Slowly, like trying, to me,

it's really, you gotta have

:

00:44:58,889 --> 00:45:00,629

a drink that's well balanced.

:

00:45:00,779 --> 00:45:00,929

Yes.

:

00:45:00,929 --> 00:45:03,449

You know, if you're gonna do a mixed

drink, it's gotta be well balanced.

:

00:45:03,779 --> 00:45:06,959

And I think I'm just learning that, that

there's like some places that are not

:

00:45:06,959 --> 00:45:09,389

well balanced and some that are Yes.

:

00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,119

And so I've tried a few

more, then I'm like, oh.

:

00:45:12,509 --> 00:45:14,249

Chris: So if you need

suggestions, hit me up.

:

00:45:14,279 --> 00:45:14,729

Buffy: Okay.

:

00:45:14,729 --> 00:45:14,759

I

:

00:45:15,149 --> 00:45:16,319

Chris: always have a good suggestion.

:

00:45:16,324 --> 00:45:16,384

Okay.

:

00:45:17,054 --> 00:45:17,474

Buffy: Love it.

:

00:45:17,594 --> 00:45:17,864

Chris: True.

:

00:45:17,934 --> 00:45:18,709

Which is pretty awesome.

:

00:45:19,014 --> 00:45:20,994

Buffy: My husband has been

making me these whiskey drinks.

:

00:45:21,054 --> 00:45:22,764

He, we call 'em the lemon balm.

:

00:45:22,824 --> 00:45:23,094

Yeah.

:

00:45:23,164 --> 00:45:24,004

Instead of a lemon drop.

:

00:45:24,109 --> 00:45:24,399

Yeah.

:

00:45:24,404 --> 00:45:24,604

Yeah.

:

00:45:24,604 --> 00:45:28,444

Because it's like lemon, a

little maple syrup, whiskey.

:

00:45:29,764 --> 00:45:30,814

There's something else in there.

:

00:45:30,814 --> 00:45:31,114

I can't.

:

00:45:31,114 --> 00:45:32,074

Sounds good for a sore throat.

:

00:45:32,074 --> 00:45:33,094

So, yeah.

:

00:45:33,274 --> 00:45:34,654

It's delicious.

:

00:45:34,684 --> 00:45:35,794

It's so good.

:

00:45:35,884 --> 00:45:36,634

Yeah.

:

00:45:36,694 --> 00:45:38,194

I'll have to get the recipe

and send it to you guys.

:

00:45:38,494 --> 00:45:38,734

Yeah.

:

00:45:38,734 --> 00:45:38,744

Yeah.

:

00:45:39,064 --> 00:45:39,664

Chris: I will try it.

:

00:45:39,754 --> 00:45:39,964

Yeah.

:

00:45:40,504 --> 00:45:43,834

I'm trying to get, like me and

my friend were talking, I'm like.

:

00:45:43,924 --> 00:45:49,114

Yeah, we spend so much that if

I just made the stuff at home,

:

00:45:49,114 --> 00:45:50,374

I'd probably save a little bit.

:

00:45:50,434 --> 00:45:50,914

Buffy: Oh, for sure.

:

00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:51,784

You'd save a lot of bit.

:

00:45:52,024 --> 00:45:52,354

Chris: Yeah.

:

00:45:52,354 --> 00:45:52,364

Yeah.

:

00:45:52,684 --> 00:45:53,524

We were talking about that before.

:

00:45:53,524 --> 00:45:54,154

And then you could donate it to

:

00:45:54,154 --> 00:45:54,889

Buffy: Wellness Without Walls.

:

00:45:55,249 --> 00:45:55,449

Chris: Right.

:

00:45:56,029 --> 00:45:59,464

But then you come away from,

you don't build the community.

:

00:45:59,464 --> 00:46:01,594

That's true of going

out and chit-chatting,

:

00:46:01,594 --> 00:46:02,809

Buffy: but you could just

invite them all to your house.

:

00:46:03,154 --> 00:46:03,604

Else.

:

00:46:04,654 --> 00:46:06,874

He, he's like, excuse me.

:

00:46:06,874 --> 00:46:07,174

What?

:

00:46:07,179 --> 00:46:08,224

Who brings people to your house?

:

00:46:08,224 --> 00:46:08,794

Who does that?

:

00:46:09,904 --> 00:46:12,544

You mean you don't wanna have like a

fire pit and just like all sit around

:

00:46:12,544 --> 00:46:14,314

with your mixed whiskey cocktails?

:

00:46:14,314 --> 00:46:14,764

Oh no, I have

:

00:46:14,764 --> 00:46:15,304

Chris: a fire pit.

:

00:46:15,724 --> 00:46:17,074

Buffy: You just don't

want people at your house.

:

00:46:17,854 --> 00:46:18,814

Chris: I'm fine with people.

:

00:46:18,814 --> 00:46:22,264

The problem is the, the

aftermath of people coming over.

:

00:46:22,294 --> 00:46:22,504

Buffy: Yeah.

:

00:46:22,864 --> 00:46:26,074

Chris: Because yeah, when you tell people

you have to take your shoes off, oh,

:

00:46:26,074 --> 00:46:28,624

and then you gotta walk through your

house and put 'em back on to go outside.

:

00:46:29,164 --> 00:46:29,764

Buffy: Like it's a little, oh.

:

00:46:30,994 --> 00:46:33,214

You'd say, take 'em off,

carry 'em through the house.

:

00:46:33,304 --> 00:46:34,534

Drop 'em at the back door.

:

00:46:34,534 --> 00:46:34,804

Yes.

:

00:46:35,314 --> 00:46:37,024

Tyler: We're just have those

little footsie things that

:

00:46:37,024 --> 00:46:38,234

you slide on your feet.

:

00:46:38,234 --> 00:46:38,804

On your feet.

:

00:46:38,804 --> 00:46:38,814

Yeah.

:

00:46:38,814 --> 00:46:39,069

Like daycare care.

:

00:46:39,194 --> 00:46:40,304

Chris: Yeah, my friend.

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So like, my friend's dogs are allergic

to everything, so they Oh, legitimately.

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Like you come in, you put, you can

put the little booties on if you don't

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wanna take your feet, your shoes off.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, that's

actually kind of nice.

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'cause like some people are like.

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I'm not undoing my shoes.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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Chris: And

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Tyler: do you have a pair

of shoes that are like that?

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Chris: Yeah.

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But it's also a lot healthier

for your house, and I've noticed

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those people's don't get as sick.

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Yeah.

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If you've ever looked in like Asian

culture, oh, they make people.

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That is true.

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Have you not noticed that?

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Buffy: No respect

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Chris: thing too.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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It's like holy ground.

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Chris: Yeah.

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You walking, you're shake your shoes off.

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You wear different shoes

throughout the house.

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Gosh, we

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Buffy: just run through our house so much.

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Like with kids, you go like back

door, front door all the time and

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you're just, I go barefoot half the

time in and out, so it's like I'm

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still bringing dirt into my home.

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Chris: See, I wipe my feet off

and then we got this thing.

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I call her Trevor.

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That cleans, it's the running joke, but

it's one, it's like a Roomba, but it runs

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through my house and cleans up every day.

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Okay.

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So at least it like kind of cleans.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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Chris: Yes.

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I call her Trevor because

the voice on it is a girl.

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Oh.

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And I just named it Trevor because I felt

bad having a girl clean my house every.

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Okay.

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Love it.

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So that's, so it's always funny.

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Do you

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Buffy: like your Roomba that you have?

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Yeah.

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Would you highly recommend it?

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'cause we need one.

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Chris: Oh yeah, yeah.

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No, this one's pretty sick.

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I can get you the name for it.

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Yeah, that sounds good.

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It was not inexpensive, but it does like

the mopping in the vacuum beans special.

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But it is still stupid, so I

always have to warn people.

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Buffy: Yeah.

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But literally we have so much

food on our floor from our kids.

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It might be worth it.

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Oh yeah.

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Chris: Oh, like I legit, legit click it.

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Like walking out.

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Like if we made a mess.

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Yes.

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That's amazing.

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You click it and it does.

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You can set up rooms and

it just does one room.

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Wow.

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After meals, like there's a setting

already that says like after meal, and

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00:48:30,059 --> 00:48:31,709

it just goes and cleans your two rooms.

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Love that.

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Buffy: Ugh.

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Yeah.

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We need that.

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Chris: Yeah, I'll find it for you.

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Perfect.

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Thank you.

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But anyways, thank you Tyler.

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00:48:39,219 --> 00:48:40,299

Yeah, thank you guys for your

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00:48:40,299 --> 00:48:41,619

Tyler: wife finding bear proof.

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Yes.

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00:48:42,939 --> 00:48:45,159

And finally they opened it up.

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You used to not be able

to order it online.

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They just recently did that.

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Oh, okay.

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00:48:49,659 --> 00:48:52,089

Buffy: So you got like the

original bottle, hand delivered.

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00:48:52,104 --> 00:48:52,164

Yeah.

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00:48:52,734 --> 00:48:54,474

And then you learned you could, okay.

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Wow.

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Tyler: Yeah, exactly.

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00:48:55,374 --> 00:48:57,744

Yeah, because I, after we finished

the first bottle, we're like,

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00:48:57,744 --> 00:48:59,184

okay, how do we get another, yeah.

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00:48:59,214 --> 00:49:00,054

And I'm like, oh, okay.

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00:49:00,054 --> 00:49:01,374

I guess our only option is flying.

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00:49:01,374 --> 00:49:01,989

So I that out.

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Yeah.

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00:49:02,609 --> 00:49:02,829

Yes.

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00:49:03,169 --> 00:49:06,254

And I was like, that's kind of

expensive for, bottle of whiskey.

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00:49:06,284 --> 00:49:06,614

Yeah.

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And then finally they opened it up

and I was like, still expensive.

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Would've been okay with it though.

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Yeah, she would've been fine.

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Now

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Buffy: she's like, please

send me on vacation.

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Right.

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Chris: Alright.

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Thank you guys for listening.

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