Episode 167

Over Par and Under The Influence

Published on: 7th May, 2025

In this engaging podcast episode, the hosts welcome Tara, a seasoned professional in the service industry, to discuss her journey through bartending, marketing, and the unique concept of a mini golf bar. The conversation delves into the intricacies of bourbon tasting, the challenges of managing a bar, and the creative process behind crafting cocktails. Listeners gain insights into building community around a business and the importance of creating a welcoming atmosphere for patrons. In this engaging conversation, the hosts explore the vibrant world of cocktails, garnishing techniques, and the unique bar experience. They discuss the importance of creating a neighborhood bar feel while maintaining quality and affordability. The conversation also delves into personal journeys in bartending, defining success in the industry, and the growing trend of non-alcoholic drinks. The hosts share insights on the challenges and joys of bartending, emphasizing the importance of community engagement and customer satisfaction.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests

02:59 Exploring the Bourbon Experience

06:03 Transitioning in the Service Industry

08:56 Building a Community Around Mini Golf

12:01 The Unique Concept of Good Life

15:06 Cocktail Crafting and Menu Highlights

24:25 Cocktail Culture and Favorites

27:16 The Art of Garnishing Drinks

30:34 Creating a Unique Bar Experience

32:54 Bartending Skills and Challenges

34:56 Personal Background and Journey

38:56 Defining Success in the Bar Industry

41:40 Lessons Learned in Bartending

43:21 Business Growth and Community Engagement

Transcript
Tyler:

Welcome back to the Whiskey Wisdom Podcast everybody.

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This is your co-host, Tyler y,

and today I am with Chris Kellum

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and our special guest today is

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Tara: Tara.

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Tyler: Very nice to have you on.

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Tara.

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Uh, we were just talking

before the podcast.

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We've kind of like known of each other

for a while in different aspects.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, I have been coming to Good Lie

more often and join the league, the

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first league that you guys had Yeah.

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And everything too, and got to

know you a little bit through that.

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So we are excited to have

you on the podcast now.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Excited to be here.

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Yeah.

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Tyler: Thanks.

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Awesome.

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Chris: Yeah, I was sitting here and I

was like, I know Tara, I know this name.

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And then you walked in.

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I was like, oh, yeah, I do

follow you on social, but I've

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not seen a picture of you.

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Yeah.

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And you're like, yeah, I just

don't post pictures of myself.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I run a lot of, I've ran a lot of

social media accounts, so it's mostly

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me just doing it all for everybody.

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Right.

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Guys: Noise, uh.

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Excuse me.

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Tyler: So we are sipping on High

West again, the Prairie Bourbon,

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but this time Chris has come

prepared with some notes for us.

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Chris: Yes.

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Well, so our bottle's a little bit older,

so I think they've updated the bottle.

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Mm-hmm.

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And the visuals on it.

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But on the nose it should be a little

light caramel, uh, sweet vanilla.

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It's supposed to have a

rich and earthy palette.

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With some candy, corn, honey noot

and sweet corn bread, biscuits.

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Do you get any of those things?

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Tara: Yeah, I definitely

got the noot taste.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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Chris: What's Nuit?

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Tara: It's like a, like a nutty,

almost like a Hazelden, but have

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Tyler: you had a Snickers?

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Yeah.

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So

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Chris: let's just

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Tyler: make

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sure everyone

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Chris: knew what we were talking about.

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Okay.

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Oh, this is one of your I do kind of

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Tyler: get some candy corn, like

on the back end of the taste.

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Yeah,

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Chris: that's why I was like,

it's, it tastes very like springy,

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but I mean, 'cause of the sweet

notes, but I could definitely see

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it being like a, a fall drink.

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Yeah.

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It is a 75% corn, 21% rye mash bill.

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Guys: So

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Tyler: we did blind, uh,

bourbon tasting the other day.

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Oh.

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And from micro distilleries.

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So that was fun.

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We learned more about mash bills

and stuff and yeah, like do we

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actually taste what's in here or

are we just like fooling ourselves?

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And we actually did pretty good.

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Yeah.

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So I, I was impressed.

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He did good.

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I did horrible.

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Chris: Yeah.

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No wanna say he did

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Tyler: horrible.

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Tara: You know, sometimes I feel like they

give you the sheets for some bourbons.

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Like I've started my bourbon

journey at French Street Brewery.

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Oh yeah.

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Uh, that's a good place to do it.

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Yeah.

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TJ there taught me a lot about

bourbons and sometimes we'd

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be tasting, I'm like, mm-hmm.

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I taste exactly that.

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Tyler: Right.

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Not a cliff.

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Whatever you say, sir.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Tyler: So tell us a little

bit more about yourself.

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Tara: So I've been in the

service industry since I was.

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15.

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I've kind of had a lot

of different life things.

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Like I went and got my bachelor's and in

marketing and communications and then I

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fell for one of those pyramid scheme jobs

in Charlotte, uh, for sales and things.

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So I've, then I just did

full-time bartending.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then went back and got my

master's and then covid happened.

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And higher ed took a big hit.

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Yeah.

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So then I just realized, kind of sat there

and thought about it and I was just like,

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service industry is where I wanna be.

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Tyler: That's awesome.

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Tara: And really set my life on that.

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And I was also doing freelance marketing

and graphic design all over town.

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And then really fast I started

running a few businesses, a few

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bars, restaurants, and so then I

realized that's what I wanted to do.

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Nice.

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Tyler: That's awesome.

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And so we had the previous bar owner on

Joe that you've worked really well with.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So that was really neat, like

knowing that you were behind

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the scenes of all of those.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was the GM of all three.

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Yeah.

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Tyler: Oh, that's awesome.

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So I'm sure that could be very busy.

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Tara: Yes, yes.

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It kept me very busy.

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Tyler: Were you there

when the facade fell?

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No,

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Tara: I wasn't in the building,

but I live on Front Street.

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Guys: Oh yeah.

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Tara: It's funny 'cause there was,

obviously I know a lot of people

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downtown from working there for so long.

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I got so many people calling

me of like, why is your husband

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booking it down from the street?

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And so he ran and I went to the car and so

we were there to fix it up and everything.

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It was me, my husband, Joe,

and a bunch of his buddies.

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Tyler: Yeah.

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Wow.

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Tara: To fix it.

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It was, it was a battle, that's for sure.

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I'm sure.

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Chris: Gosh, that's crazy.

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Yeah.

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I was like, I didn't think

you were there inside.

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Tara: No.

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Yeah, I wasn't there

there, but uh, I was there.

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But you were still working?

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Yeah, I was there within 10 minutes.

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Tyler: Wow.

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Yeah.

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All: The good,

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Tyler: was it, were people

actually inside when that happened?

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Tara: There was our, our last customer

that night left like five minutes before.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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So we were good.

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But the staff inside there

was a cook and a waitress.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so they said they were in the

back luckily when it happened.

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Yeah.

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But I can only imagine

what it sounded like.

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That's probably scary

as hell to hear that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah,

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Chris: I'd be like, Hey

you guys, here's my notice.

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Yeah.

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I'm not trying to get trapped in here.

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Not anymore.

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Tara: Yeah.

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I've become really good in a crisis.

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So I just went into like work

mode of like, all right, we

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need to fix this, this and this.

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Clear the people.

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'cause then everybody starts

crowding 'cause there's fire trucks.

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And I wish, I wish there was someone

recording, 'cause Joe had a moment

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where he was walking on the rubble

and just screamed a curse word.

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And I was like, that's like

a scene out of a movie.

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Right.

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But I mean, we were all thinking it.

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Chris: Right, exactly.

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He just, he just said it out loud.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Tyler: Yeah.

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So when did you transition from

doing that over to Good line?

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How did you find that opportunity?

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Tara: So actually the owner,

he started out as a patron at

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one of the bars I was running.

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Okay.

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And I was bartending.

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And I fell in love with the

idea of a mini golf bar like.

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I wanna say eight years ago.

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Guys: Mm-hmm.

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Tara: Yeah.

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A long time ago.

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And I was like, Wilmington needs this.

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Yeah.

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Like, especially like an

adult oriented mini golf bar.

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Yes.

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Especially downtown.

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Guys: Right.

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Tara: That would be really cool.

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And we just started talking and he talked

about the bar that he has in Florida.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I was like, dang it,

someone's getting one under me.

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They're stealing my idea.

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Well, not my idea 'cause I stole it

from someone else, but for the sale.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so I transitioned Tola in

end of July, beginning of August.

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And it was to be a part of it, and

I mean, he, the owner really, he got

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a sense of all my, all the things

that I do, marketing, everything.

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And so he really wanted to invest

in what I bring to the table.

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So he made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Very cool.

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Yeah.

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But I've loved it.

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I mean, helping build the

mini golf and just build the

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brand itself has been mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Really awesome.

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Tyler: So, obviously, like Jennifer

and I go there pretty often too, but

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it seems like there's already just

within the year, like a pretty good

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community that's already built around it.

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Tara: Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the one thing of like why

we chose that location was because.

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There was no real like,

neighborhood sports bar.

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It's like, right.

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Yeah.

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I love the harp and I

love the, uh, satellite.

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Yeah.

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But satellite doesn't have TVs.

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Mm-hmm.

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So sports bar was a big part

that we wanted to add there.

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And then Castle Street

is just up and coming.

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Chris: Yeah.

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Right.

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So.

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Well, and the harp is like still

a different part of downtown.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's just far enough, like there's cargo,

the south front district, downtown.

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Mm-hmm.

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We still have.

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Knock on wood.

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Guys: Right.

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We still

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Tara: have, uh, free parking

and plenty of it around there.

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True.

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And that space, we could really

utilize it the best way possible.

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Chris: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, I love it.

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I've, I've, me and Tyler, we joke all

the time with random ideas for new bars

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and things, and we're like, really?

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I just need to be an idea, man.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Chris: Just get paid for my ideas and

someone else can go put 'em all together.

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Yeah.

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But with good life for those

who've never been or don't really

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know what's going on in there.

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Can you tell us a little bit about

the whole place and the setup?

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Tara: Yeah.

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So, we have outdoor seating now.

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And it's an adult, I mean, it's

still kid friendly during the day.

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But I mean, it gets a little

rowdy at night, right?

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It's a sports bar drinking.

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We got a local artist to take pro golfers

actual mugshots and turn them into art.

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All: Oh, nice.

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It's pretty sweet.

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Yeah.

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And then the

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Tara: actor that played Shooter Mcg

Gavin, he got arrested here, so we

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did his too, since he played a golfer.

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But it's, I mean, we've got a giant

bar with a bunch of seating and then

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a middle bar and then a nine hole.

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Mini golf course.

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Nice.

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So it's a lot of fun.

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It's very, it's very challenging.

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Everybody will come in and I tell

'em there's a six stroke maximum,

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and if they roll their eyes, I'm

like, I'll see you on the back end.

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Tyler: Right, exactly.

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And then when you've maxed that on three

of the nine holes, like Yeah, yeah.

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Wait, what?

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Tara: Yeah, it's, it's difficult.

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Because people walk in and they're

like, oh, this, they're like small

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holes, small courses, but yeah.

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They're tricky.

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Yeah.

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We put a lot of thought into, uh,

mostly the owner, but with all

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the holes we put a lot of thought

into how they were gonna work.

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Guys: Mm.

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Tara: But there's a hole in one

possible in every single hole.

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Mm-hmm.

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A lot of people will fight me on that.

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Chris: Has anyone?

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So two questions.

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One, do I win anything if I get a

hole in one besides bragging rights?

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Tara: Yeah.

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We have hole in one stamp cards, so

once you fill that up, you can get a

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free round of golf or a free drink.

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Chris: Okay.

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Tara: Obviously not.

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Really expensive bourbon.

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It's up to a certain amount.

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I mean,

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Chris: but it's a hole in one.

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Come

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Tara: on, man.

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I know.

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Well, that's why on the really

tricky ones, you get two stamps.

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Oh.

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but we have, we also have a bunch

of bar games on the bar tops

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that we have like small giveaway

prizes from local liquor reps.

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And there's like one where

you put a golf ball in a tee.

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People get obsessed with that one.

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Tyler: Mm.

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That's the one Jennifer's obsessed with.

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Yeah.

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We go there and we sit there

and the first thing she does is

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grab that thing and start going.

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I can see her still hasn't gotten it yet.

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Chris: people have gotten hole in ones?

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Yes.

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I just wanted people to realize, oh yeah.

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That it is possible.

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And somebody besides yourself has done it.

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Tara: Yes.

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Tyler: I think between Jennifer and

I, we've gotten a hole in one on

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every single hole so far in there.

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It's not often, but every

once in a while you get lucky.

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Hey, somehow

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Chris: he still never invites me.

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Tyler: Well, it was

mostly on league nights.

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Chris: Yeah.

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So, so that leads me to,

you guys do a league.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Every Wednesday we have a league.

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The leagues are two person teams.

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They last, uh, 10 weeks and we actually

have a new one coming up, right?

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Yeah, right Now

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Chris: when does that one start?

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Tara: The first week, or it

starts this upcoming week, but

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the first week is open place.

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So say you still wanted to

sign up late or something.

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Tax refund days.

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Tuesday True, right?

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Yes.

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Perfect.

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So if you wanna sign up late really you

just have to start by the first game.

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Chris: Okay.

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Are, are you doing it again?

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Tyler: I need to find out how Jennifer's

schedule was because this last

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league that came up, Jennifer worked

like almost every single Wednesday.

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So I was like, okay, I

guess we'll skip that.

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Chris: Yeah.

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Uh,

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Tyler: she's like, I need to

schedule myself better next time.

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And I was like, yeah, you do.

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Yeah, she

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Chris: should.

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I know.

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I mean, I'm not off on Wednesday, so

otherwise I would've signed up for it.

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Tara: Yeah.

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And as it grows, like

as we have more people.

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The first league we had 24 teams

and we realized that's kind of

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a lot about where we can go.

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'cause they, you play two

rounds every Wednesday.

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So timing it Right.

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With tee times and when they

come back around to play the

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second round, it's making sure

everybody's not waiting too long.

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But also have enough time

to grab another beer drink.

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Tyler: Right.

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It is pretty impressive how you

guys had that set up though,

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because like you were never really

standing, waiting around at all.

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Tara: Yeah.

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It's like

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Tyler: just enough time to like grab

your breath and like start back again.

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Tara: Yeah.

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There was one night this past week that we

had a lot of non-league players come in.

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And so trying to time all of that, I

got a little anxious 'cause I was like,

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all right, we've got three people that

wanna play and everything's doubling up.

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But we made it work Good.

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So good

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Tyler: listening.

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Chris: So I heard, I'm asking all the good

questions on the front end, 'cause Tyler,

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I saw of them in the last interview.

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Uh, when you do, when you set up

this golf course, what's the theme?

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Tara: So,

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Chris: because I know most, like

many putt putt putt, many golf

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courses have like some sort of theme.

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Is it like, hey.

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Guys who play golf get arrested

or like, what's the kind of

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theme and idea behind it?

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Tara: So ours is more of a laid back vibe.

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Like we don't have the whimsical

water wheels and things like that.

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But it's more about having that laid back.

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Like you can just have fun.

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It's not super crazy, but it gets people

like it's a neighborhood bar feel.

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But with mini golf.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like two businesses in one.

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Our t-shirts on the back say

over par and under the influence.

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So really, if you're drinking

and having fun, it's okay.

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Good.

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Because I, we know our

course is challenging, but

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that's the fun part of it.

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And then people just keep playing.

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So I don't think we have like one

general theme, but it's just like

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a neighborhood sports bar feel.

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We've got, uh, shot skis on wedges,

like club wedges, so that's fun.

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Tyler: Here we go.

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Day we get you and Emily to come

out and we'll do a shots to open

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Chris: on Mondays.

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Tara: Yep.

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Chris: I mean, that's one of the

things I've I've asked for is at

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work, I'm always off on Monday.

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I'm like, can I not be off

on Mondays because Right.

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Everything's closed and Oh, yeah.

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Like every one of the spots

I go to is closed on Mondays.

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Now you have a place to go.

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Tara: Yeah.

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Chris: And you guys have food now too?

451

:

Yeah.

452

:

Tara: Yeah.

453

:

We have personal sized pizzas

that they're made in Italy and

454

:

then we cook them in house.

455

:

They're a lot more filling than I

expected, but they're really, really good.

456

:

Chris: So are tariffs

affecting you guys too?

457

:

Tara: As of right now?

458

:

Say

459

:

Chris: yeah.

460

:

No, no.

461

:

That's been the running joke.

462

:

Oh yeah.

463

:

At work for the last like two weeks

is every other phone call is like, are

464

:

tariffs affecting the cost of all your.

465

:

Yeah, sir.

466

:

I work in a store.

467

:

Yeah.

468

:

I, I, I don't make the prices up.

469

:

Tara: Yeah.

470

:

Yeah.

471

:

It's like there's all, like, all

the liquor reps and beer reps,

472

:

and even like, uh, promo merch.

473

:

Mm-hmm.

474

:

Uh, designers, they're all

like, we don't know yet.

475

:

We'll see.

476

:

Right.

477

:

We'll find out what happens.

478

:

Luckily in North Carolina with

all the pricing and tax system

479

:

and everything, nothing, none

of that can change for a while.

480

:

Right.

481

:

Even if it does affect the stores.

482

:

Tyler: Yeah.

483

:

That's one good thing about North

Carolina is like, it's so insulated

484

:

'cause it's so government controlled.

485

:

Yeah.

486

:

That like, it's hard for anything

to like come like penetrate.

487

:

Guys: Yeah.

488

:

Tyler: Yeah.

489

:

So I mean, as much as we complain

about it, I guess there is benefits

490

:

when there's trade wars going on.

491

:

Chris: Yeah.

492

:

Yeah.

493

:

I've asked a lot and I'm

letting you have one.

494

:

Tyler: Oh, okay.

495

:

This is like the opposite of last.

496

:

Where was I gonna go before

we went down that rabbit hole?

497

:

I was gonna piggyback off the, having

like a neighborhood sports bar.

498

:

'cause that was always the one thing

that I like complained about too.

499

:

'cause this podcast is

in the cargo district.

500

:

Mm-hmm.

501

:

And it's like, there's not really

anything that you can like set and

502

:

like, feel at home and like watch the

game with like a bunch of people Yeah.

503

:

That, that you wanna be with.

504

:

And you guys opened that

and I was like that.

505

:

That's pretty cool now.

506

:

Tara: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

507

:

And because the bar is so big

and having that middle bar

508

:

Tyler: right.

509

:

Guys: I

510

:

Tara: believe we have 33.

511

:

Bar stools.

512

:

But even like people just standing

around and stuff, like, there's

513

:

a lot of room to bring groups.

514

:

I mean, we have birthday parties.

515

:

Someone threw their son.

516

:

Uh, he golfs a lot, threw him a

birthday party, but they ended up

517

:

watching, uh, soccer the whole time.

518

:

Oh yeah.

519

:

So it was, it turned

into a sports bar party.

520

:

They got everybody

involved, but it was great.

521

:

That's

522

:

Chris: great.

523

:

So are you guys gonna

expand into Castle Hane?

524

:

Tara: In Kathleen?

525

:

I don't know.

526

:

It could be possible.

527

:

Chris: No, that's, that's

part of our running joke here.

528

:

Oh yeah.

529

:

'cause it's, it's like growing so much.

530

:

It's, yes.

531

:

And there's not, well technically

there's two bars out there.

532

:

Gotcha.

533

:

Which is crazy.

534

:

For that big of a space

to only have two bars,

535

:

Tyler: actually the one place

that's for sale would make a

536

:

perfect spot for another good life.

537

:

I

538

:

Chris: don't know if it's.

539

:

Has enough space though,

like it's very narrow.

540

:

You

541

:

Tyler: haven't been in this one?

542

:

Tara: Yeah.

543

:

When I went in to talk with the owner

I don't really call it an interview.

544

:

'cause when I told him that I

wanted to have a conversation, he

545

:

was like, all right, come in and

see the space and we'll just chat.

546

:

But I walked in and nothing, the

bar wasn't there, nothing was there.

547

:

And I was like, you wanna

put what in this place?

548

:

Guys: Okay.

549

:

I don't And somehow it works.

550

:

Yeah.

551

:

Like, because

552

:

Tara: yeah.

553

:

It works out really, really well.

554

:

Yeah.

555

:

Okay.

556

:

Yeah.

557

:

He showed me the blueprint and I was like,

those holes are gonna be really tiny.

558

:

I don't, I thought this was supposed

to be really challenging mini golf.

559

:

Mm-hmm.

560

:

And then we were putting it together.

561

:

The fun part of building was that, uh,

we, like, we would stay really late.

562

:

There's a crab store.

563

:

Mm-hmm.

564

:

Oh, that's right.

565

:

Yeah.

566

:

And all they sold was Heineken.

567

:

So we just gravitate the Heineken

and put until we got a hole in one

568

:

and be like, all right, this works.

569

:

Chris: That's awesome.

570

:

That's.

571

:

I used to get my hair cut down there.

572

:

Mm-hmm.

573

:

Like right across the

street from you guys.

574

:

And I remember that, that

shop on the corner mm-hmm.

575

:

For years.

576

:

And then Colt 45 came out and that,

that always just imagined the guy,

577

:

the blind man walking past that store.

578

:

You know what I'm talking about?

579

:

That would be, yeah.

580

:

Yeah.

581

:

Okay.

582

:

That's funny.

583

:

I don't know, I just, every time

I hear Cult 45, I just picture him

584

:

walking in front of that store like.

585

:

Hello

586

:

Tara: lady.

587

:

We're gonna have to create

that video right up front.

588

:

I was gonna say, yeah, that actually

589

:

Guys: gonna be fun.

590

:

Just gave me a good idea.

591

:

Chris: Oh my gosh.

592

:

Tyler: Oh, actually, you,

one of your bartenders is at

593

:

the other thing today, right?

594

:

The is that today?

595

:

The bartender contest?

596

:

The bartender contest?

597

:

Tara: Yeah.

598

:

She was supposed to be, she

had a a loss in her family,

599

:

so she had to go outta town.

600

:

But her and I did work really well

together 'cause she hadn't bartended

601

:

until I brought her to Good lie.

602

:

Oh, okay.

603

:

I had known her for a little bit and

I knew she worked at a restaurant

604

:

downtown and I was like, Hey, if you

wanna learn bartending, I'll teach you.

605

:

And that's

606

:

Tyler: awesome.

607

:

Tara: 'cause she's got a great personality

and, if you waitress, you can multitask.

608

:

And I was like, okay, I know she can

handle the service industry at least.

609

:

So I brought her in, taught her all you

need to know about bartending, and then

610

:

her and I worked together on her cocktail.

611

:

I was like, think of some ideas

and I'll help you build the

612

:

process of building out a cocktail.

613

:

Mm-hmm.

614

:

Tyler: That's really neat.

615

:

Yeah.

616

:

Tara: But she was having fun,

617

:

Tyler: so I would say that was probably a

lot of fun for her being like new in the

618

:

industry too and having someone kind of

like tailor the cocktail, making part of

619

:

like the artistry part of it behind it.

620

:

Tara: Yeah, it's like the artistry and

then also like just figuring out balances.

621

:

And I also added on

costing a cocktail with it.

622

:

Oh yeah.

623

:

So like say if you did want to create

a cocktail and pitch it wherever

624

:

you work, I know no one's gonna work

there forever for their whole life.

625

:

But, just something

transferable to anywhere else.

626

:

Right.

627

:

That one goes kind of, that is an

628

:

Tyler: important part is pricing out a

cocktail too, because we've had people

629

:

in different times that they've made

cocktails for us and they're like, I'm

630

:

just gonna give you like a for warning.

631

:

Like, this is 'cause you asked for this,

but like this would never go on a menu

632

:

'cause it's gonna be like a $22 cocktail.

633

:

Yeah.

634

:

We're like, oh, okay.

635

:

Tara: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

636

:

They can get very expensive.

637

:

Especially figuring out what you're using.

638

:

Chris: Yeah.

639

:

Yeah.

640

:

So I.

641

:

Along the cocktail line.

642

:

Two questions.

643

:

Mm-hmm.

644

:

'cause I love this.

645

:

How do you make an old fashioned

646

:

Guys: Ooh.

647

:

Chris: And then second question, what's

your favorite cocktail on your menu?

648

:

Tara: Two very good questions.

649

:

Uh, I mean,

650

:

Chris: I, I have some

when I'm in that, like,

651

:

Tyler: yeah.

652

:

You stop falling asleep in the studio.

653

:

Tara: Yeah.

654

:

Old fashioned.

655

:

I mean, like say you wanted an old

fashioned and you came in, I ask.

656

:

What your go-to bourbon is first.

657

:

Mm-hmm.

658

:

Even if we don't have it, and then I

can get something along the lines of

659

:

that and then build it from there.

660

:

Never soda water, anybody that puts

soda water in an old fashioned,

661

:

Chris: that's terrible.

662

:

Yeah.

663

:

It happens here in town.

664

:

Yeah.

665

:

Yeah.

666

:

Tara: I forgot where I was, but I

was watching them make it and I saw

667

:

them use the soda gun and I was like.

668

:

Guys: I

669

:

Tyler: don't know

670

:

Guys: what you mean.

671

:

Tara: It was like a 15, $16 pour bourbon.

672

:

And I was like,

673

:

Tyler: oh no, it's even worse.

674

:

Yeah,

675

:

Tara: that was bad.

676

:

Okay.

677

:

I mean, the go-to would be to

keep on building with like a

678

:

sugar cube, a little bit of water.

679

:

But most places just use simple syrup.

680

:

Yeah.

681

:

And then big cube.

682

:

If you have them,

683

:

Chris: right?

684

:

If you have, yeah.

685

:

Do you have big cubes?

686

:

Tara: Yes.

687

:

They're also in the shape of a golf ball.

688

:

Chris: Mm-hmm.

689

:

Nice.

690

:

Yeah.

691

:

So do you make those?

692

:

Tara: Mm-hmm.

693

:

Yeah.

694

:

They're special molds that we have.

695

:

Chris: Ah, okay.

696

:

Tara: Yeah.

697

:

Chris: Yeah.

698

:

It's like I know a guy,

if you need someone.

699

:

Tara: Interesting.

700

:

Is it you?

701

:

Chris: He's trying to

get into the business.

702

:

Yeah.

703

:

I told you we have so many ideas

for guys who don't actually

704

:

work in the service industry.

705

:

Tara: I mean ideas.

706

:

So

707

:

Chris: it's true.

708

:

Tara: And then, I mean, I.

709

:

Everybody will say there's one

way to make an old fashioned, but

710

:

you can make do most of the time.

711

:

Right.

712

:

But that's really how I do mine.

713

:

And then it's express, a

orange peel, all that jazz.

714

:

Yeah.

715

:

I mean, when I worked at Poorhouse and

someone ordered, uh, an old fashioned,

716

:

you would just dive bart trick,

717

:

Chris: squirt 'em with water.

718

:

Tara: Uh, well, I would tell

someone, I'm like, Hey, I'm not

719

:

gonna do an expensive bourbon.

720

:

I can make you something that

tastes like an old fashioned,

721

:

but you wouldn't expect it.

722

:

Trick is to put a splashy jager in there.

723

:

Tyler: Oh, interesting.

724

:

Chris: Oh, I can totally see that.

725

:

Tara: Yep.

726

:

Yep.

727

:

They never know.

728

:

And they're like, oh wow, this is so good.

729

:

Yeah.

730

:

Die far trick.

731

:

Chris: See, but there's the

thing, that's why I asked.

732

:

So one, this is my question for the

year, for any like person in service

733

:

industry, how you make an old fashioned,

because everyone makes 'em different.

734

:

Yeah.

735

:

And for those listening, they

can make 'em at home listening to

736

:

how you guys do it and just see

which version they like the best.

737

:

Guys: Yeah.

738

:

Chris: Uh, number two.

739

:

Like in general, I, I feel like

you're a douche if you walk into

740

:

a dive bar and say, Hey, can

I have an old fashioned what?

741

:

Tyler: Say, do you not

know where you're at, sir?

742

:

Guys: Yeah.

743

:

Chris: Yeah.

744

:

Like, it's not a hard drink.

745

:

That's an easy drink to make.

746

:

But I feel like in a dive bar, I'm

not expecting them to have simple

747

:

syrup or sugar cubes sitting here.

748

:

Yeah.

749

:

And to waste their time

muddling a sugar cube.

750

:

Yeah.

751

:

And an orange slice.

752

:

Yeah.

753

:

Or something like.

754

:

If you're slow Sure.

755

:

Yeah.

756

:

Only you're the only person.

757

:

I might do it.

758

:

Yeah.

759

:

Will I tip you well also?

760

:

Yes.

761

:

Yeah.

762

:

But don't, don't be that

763

:

Tara: guy.

764

:

Yeah.

765

:

Yeah.

766

:

You'd be surprised.

767

:

All: No.

768

:

Tara: Yeah.

769

:

Yeah.

770

:

Probably not.

771

:

All: Not in this town.

772

:

Tara: Yeah.

773

:

And the second question,

favorite cocktail?

774

:

We did just switch up for a spring menu.

775

:

There's a, a Mackay tie.

776

:

It's named after the famous

golf course in Hawaii.

777

:

Mm-hmm.

778

:

Mm-hmm.

779

:

But it's a really good ma Thai,

but I do love our transfusions.

780

:

You can't go wrong with those.

781

:

Tyler: I was gonna say, the transfusion

782

:

Chris: is probably one

of my top favorites.

783

:

You don't have a master's

like an Augusta drink?

784

:

Tara: Uh, we did have an Augusta National.

785

:

On the previous menu.

786

:

This weekend we've been

selling a lot of azaleas.

787

:

Tyler: Okay.

788

:

Yeah.

789

:

I just learned that that was a

thing like a couple days ago.

790

:

Yeah.

791

:

I was like, I didn't

even know this existed.

792

:

I'm

793

:

Chris: from

794

:

Tyler: here and

795

:

Chris: don't know what the fuck that is.

796

:

Tara: It's just, it's

a drink of the masters.

797

:

It's not like a transfusion

is like a golf course drink.

798

:

Got you.

799

:

The Azalea is just the Master's cocktail.

800

:

Chris: I thought you meant

like, 'cause we're from North

801

:

Carolina and the Azalea Festival.

802

:

Yeah.

803

:

What's the azalea?

804

:

Tara: It's vodka.

805

:

We do it with lemonade, but sometimes they

switch between pineapple and lemonade.

806

:

Mm-hmm.

807

:

And Grenadine.

808

:

Guys: Okay.

809

:

Chris: Yeah.

810

:

Okay.

811

:

Yeah, I had one.

812

:

Tyler: Oh, yeah.

813

:

So

814

:

Chris: I just didn't know what it was.

815

:

Yeah.

816

:

Tyler: Yeah.

817

:

I was sitting at a bar the other day

and they're like, can you make an azalea

818

:

since we're watching masters in here?

819

:

And I was like, oh, what?

820

:

Yeah.

821

:

And the, of course the bartender now.

822

:

Yeah.

823

:

But I was like, what?

824

:

What is that?

825

:

Yeah.

826

:

So that was pretty neat.

827

:

Tara: Yeah.

828

:

It's like a.

829

:

What do they call it?

830

:

Dirty Shirley?

831

:

Yeah.

832

:

Yeah.

833

:

With either pineapple or lemonade.

834

:

It's like calling a Cape

Cod Vodka cranberry.

835

:

Yeah.

836

:

Yeah.

837

:

Tyler: The fancy name

838

:

Tara: No, was Cuba Libre.

839

:

It's just a rum and coke lime.

840

:

Tyler: I didn't know that

one had a fancy name.

841

:

I did know that one.

842

:

The cape.

843

:

So

844

:

Chris: to me

845

:

Tyler: that,

846

:

Chris: that sounds very douchey.

847

:

Tara: Yeah.

848

:

The first time someone asked

me, I wanna say I was working.

849

:

In Carolina Beach, they asked

me for a Cape Cod, and I was

850

:

like, what are you talking about?

851

:

And then I looked it up, like I went

to the back and looked it up and I

852

:

was like, it's a vodka cranberry.

853

:

Yeah.

854

:

Okay.

855

:

Yeah.

856

:

Yeah.

857

:

It disappointing.

858

:

Chris: Like I understand like

if it's on your menu and you do

859

:

something special to the cranberry.

860

:

Yeah.

861

:

Like you make an infusion of

it or like you make a Yeah.

862

:

Something.

863

:

But just vodka cranberry.

864

:

Yep.

865

:

Tara: That's it.

866

:

Oh, and a lime watch.

867

:

Can't forget that.

868

:

Yeah.

869

:

Chris: Okay.

870

:

That was important part.

871

:

Yeah, that's citric.

872

:

Tara: Yeah.

873

:

Chris: Sorry.

874

:

Tara: That's all it is.

875

:

Tyler: All right.

876

:

Ask your garnish question

now, now that we're there.

877

:

Chris: Yeah, we do.

878

:

So what's your opinion on garnishes?

879

:

Do you do low or, or high

when it comes to them?

880

:

Tara: What do you mean, low or high?

881

:

Like a little bit of garnish or, yeah.

882

:

As

883

:

Chris: in like low to the top of the

cup, or do you want it as tall and

884

:

as far away from the cup as possible?

885

:

Uh, like do you stack six things on there?

886

:

I.

887

:

Tara: No, I mean you see the

Bloody Mary's with like shrimp

888

:

and crab legs sticking out of it.

889

:

Right.

890

:

I'm like, well now I don't

need lunch 'cause I have this.

891

:

Exactly.

892

:

Chris: Mm-hmm.

893

:

I mean the bloody Mary caustic amount

of lunch when you add all that in there.

894

:

Tara: Yeah, true.

895

:

I like to keep it, I

guess, on the lower end.

896

:

Okay.

897

:

Just, I mean, simple.

898

:

The drink to me, I like a

drink that speaks for itself.

899

:

Guys: Mm-hmm.

900

:

Okay.

901

:

Tara: I think a garnish

should compliment it.

902

:

Like if something on the nose helps the

taste of the drink, that kind of thing.

903

:

I do like the aesthetically

pleasing ones too.

904

:

It's like we just put a cocktail with

a dried grapefruit slices right on

905

:

top, but it also helps with the taste.

906

:

It also looks really pretty.

907

:

Alright.

908

:

Guys: What's

909

:

Tara: that drink?

910

:

That one is, oh gosh.

911

:

Upper core 75.

912

:

Tyler: Okay.

913

:

That's the one I had.

914

:

Nice.

915

:

Tara: Well, we had a

Clubhouse 75 Clubhouse.

916

:

Clubhouse, that's what it was.

917

:

Yeah, that's right.

918

:

Yeah.

919

:

I just switched out the name.

920

:

Oh, nice, nice.

921

:

And made a new drink, kind of along

the same lines of two gins, Prosecco.

922

:

Right.

923

:

But now it's a brighter color for

924

:

Tyler: summer, summer, spring time.

925

:

Oh, sweet.

926

:

Yeah.

927

:

I mean, do you come up

with all these on your own?

928

:

Tara: Kinda.

929

:

I mean, it's like any, there's a running

joke of like, put a flare on it or

930

:

Guys: Right.

931

:

Tara: This rift kind of thing.

932

:

So I do a lot of research and

like look at other mini golf bars,

933

:

kind of see what they're serving.

934

:

Mm-hmm.

935

:

And then.

936

:

Look at other bars around town to see

kind of where they're like, what they're

937

:

heavy on, like vodkas or bourbons.

938

:

Guys: Mm-hmm.

939

:

Tara: 'cause we do have really

great solid cocktails, but we're

940

:

not a craft cocktail place.

941

:

Guys: Right.

942

:

Yeah.

943

:

You know,

944

:

Tara: it's like we do have coops

and martini glasses and stuff.

945

:

It's a little.

946

:

Upscale, but still, we still

wanna keep like dive bar prices.

947

:

Okay.

948

:

I don't wanna, none of our cocktails

will, will ever go over $15.

949

:

Tyler: Okay.

950

:

that was something that, that was

really neat too, like the first

951

:

time that I went in because like.

952

:

Going to a mini golf course,

especially in Wilmington.

953

:

I was like, what do you expect?

954

:

Guys: Yeah.

955

:

Tyler: And so going in, I was

like, okay, there'll probably be

956

:

some, like, mostly just beers.

957

:

Guys: Yeah.

958

:

Tyler: So I go in and you have

like a full cocktail list.

959

:

You actually have a really nice

non-alcoholic list as well too for

960

:

anyone out there that's doing the sober

thing now because it's getting popular.

961

:

And then just like the, the upscale scale

ness of it without it being like that.

962

:

Craft cocktail bar type of

price and feel as well too.

963

:

Yeah.

964

:

I thought it was a really nice mixture.

965

:

Tara: Yeah.

966

:

'cause we wanted like going

with the neighborhood sports bar

967

:

feel, but then something fun and

like a try to be a go-to spot.

968

:

It's just nice having a balance.

969

:

And then also someone once said that,

it's like, oh well everybody else is

970

:

pricing it this way so you can too.

971

:

And I was like, well I

don't want to do that.

972

:

Right.

973

:

If we're saying we're a

neighborhood bar Yeah.

974

:

Then we should have

neighborhood friendly prices.

975

:

Yeah.

976

:

Right.

977

:

Yeah.

978

:

And the na thing, we have na and then

we have THC drinks for California sober.

979

:

Right.

980

:

Mocktails, we actually, for

January, we brought on zero proof

981

:

spirits, so most of our cocktails

you can turn into, uh, mocktails.

982

:

Nice.

983

:

Oh, nice.

984

:

Yeah,

985

:

Tyler: Jennifer, there's a, a couple na

drinks there that she was like, I kind of

986

:

wanna have alcohol, but these are so good.

987

:

And then it's like, well,

actually we can just add alcohol

988

:

to the non-alcoholic ones.

989

:

So depending on how

she's feeling that day.

990

:

Guys: Yeah.

991

:

Chris: So.

992

:

When are you gonna have us in the bar

and show Tyler how to make a drink

993

:

Tara: Anytime you want.

994

:

You can make me do it

995

:

Chris: now.

996

:

Tara: Yeah.

997

:

Chris: So here's the joke.

998

:

Like I said, I actually am social

and could make drinks and be a

999

:

bartender at a place where no one

knows what a bartender looks like.

:

00:29:17,282 --> 00:29:19,652

I'd be perfect if you've

met a good bartender.

:

00:29:19,652 --> 00:29:20,852

I'm not the one but.

:

00:29:21,962 --> 00:29:26,732

We tried to do one episode with Ty, with

me, with one of the bartenders downtown

:

00:29:27,212 --> 00:29:30,662

and height disparity messed up the shot.

:

00:29:30,842 --> 00:29:34,322

So then Tyler had to make a drink and

it's fun watching him being awkward.

:

00:29:34,562 --> 00:29:34,947

Oh, that's fun.

:

00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:39,767

But I think we have a height disparity

and when it comes to recording,

:

00:29:40,277 --> 00:29:41,417

Tara: you gotta get a little closer.

:

00:29:41,507 --> 00:29:41,972

Yeah, yeah,

:

00:29:42,167 --> 00:29:42,827

Tyler: yeah, yeah.

:

00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:43,667

That's how I put in there too.

:

00:29:44,627 --> 00:29:47,177

The funny thing, we did it at

under front is when I did it,

:

00:29:47,242 --> 00:29:48,202

Guys: I think I saw it in videos.

:

00:29:48,202 --> 00:29:48,482

Yeah.

:

00:29:48,552 --> 00:29:48,842

Yeah.

:

00:29:49,367 --> 00:29:52,607

Tyler: I don't know if they showed it

in the video that we put out, but you,

:

00:29:52,907 --> 00:29:54,107

there was a man, you made the video.

:

00:29:54,497 --> 00:29:54,857

I know.

:

00:29:54,857 --> 00:29:55,877

I don't know if I put it out or not.

:

00:29:56,057 --> 00:29:56,717

There's a part of it.

:

00:29:56,717 --> 00:29:59,537

There was men and she was

like, express the men.

:

00:29:59,542 --> 00:29:59,762

Mm-hmm.

:

00:29:59,957 --> 00:30:01,007

And then I just like.

:

00:30:01,632 --> 00:30:02,687

The loudest, like, yeah.

:

00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:04,242

Just like, okay, that was enough.

:

00:30:04,487 --> 00:30:04,647

Yeah.

:

00:30:05,712 --> 00:30:05,713

Like,

:

00:30:05,718 --> 00:30:05,727

Chris: okay.

:

00:30:06,027 --> 00:30:07,812

You're like, I don't know what I'm doing.

:

00:30:08,082 --> 00:30:08,952

I'm just back here.

:

00:30:09,042 --> 00:30:09,522

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:30:09,672 --> 00:30:10,002

Yeah.

:

00:30:10,512 --> 00:30:15,042

Well, the great thing about our

cocktail menu is that I built

:

00:30:15,042 --> 00:30:21,282

it also where half of the drinks

can be made like a dump and pour.

:

00:30:21,287 --> 00:30:21,437

Mm-hmm.

:

00:30:21,517 --> 00:30:21,638

Like a mm-hmm.

:

00:30:22,512 --> 00:30:23,082

Speed.

:

00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:23,862

You can crank 'em out.

:

00:30:23,862 --> 00:30:28,032

Especially people, setting people up for

the golf can make cocktails really fast.

:

00:30:28,032 --> 00:30:30,192

But then like the gins and the bourbons.

:

00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:32,542

And the rum drinks take

a little bit more time.

:

00:30:32,542 --> 00:30:32,632

Mm-hmm.

:

00:30:32,902 --> 00:30:35,242

But they're not super difficult.

:

00:30:35,242 --> 00:30:37,942

I try to keep it where you

still have that speed factor.

:

00:30:38,692 --> 00:30:39,052

Guys: Nice.

:

00:30:39,862 --> 00:30:40,192

Tyler: I feel more

:

00:30:40,192 --> 00:30:40,912

Chris: comfortable doing that.

:

00:30:42,862 --> 00:30:46,372

I'm just over here laughing because

I don't really think I'm a good

:

00:30:46,372 --> 00:30:48,442

bartender, but you'd be fine.

:

00:30:49,132 --> 00:30:49,792

I have that.

:

00:30:49,822 --> 00:30:51,682

Like I'm not gonna be nervous.

:

00:30:51,742 --> 00:30:53,722

Let's, what are we doing?

:

00:30:53,722 --> 00:30:53,962

It?

:

00:30:54,652 --> 00:30:55,402

Guys: Confidence is key.

:

00:30:55,492 --> 00:30:55,912

Yes.

:

00:30:55,912 --> 00:30:55,972

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:30:56,032 --> 00:30:58,492

I wasn't expecting to be doing it

that day either, was the other thing.

:

00:30:58,732 --> 00:30:59,932

I was like, ah, alright,

:

00:31:00,502 --> 00:31:01,132

Chris: well go for it.

:

00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:02,842

I'm the one behind the camera.

:

00:31:02,842 --> 00:31:03,502

I'm like, you.

:

00:31:03,592 --> 00:31:03,952

Yeah.

:

00:31:04,012 --> 00:31:06,742

People know of me, but

when they ask, I'm like,

:

00:31:07,762 --> 00:31:08,062

Tara: yeah,

:

00:31:08,812 --> 00:31:10,972

Chris: if I don't have to be in front

of the camera, I'm not going to be,

:

00:31:11,512 --> 00:31:11,662

Tara: oh.

:

00:31:12,907 --> 00:31:16,507

I have our staff, like we'll do monthly

staff meetings and then we do content.

:

00:31:16,777 --> 00:31:17,017

Mm-hmm.

:

00:31:17,077 --> 00:31:18,907

And so they're all like,

well how about Terry?

:

00:31:18,907 --> 00:31:19,747

You getting one?

:

00:31:19,927 --> 00:31:23,917

'cause I'll have them redo takes and

I'm like, no, I've just, I got a vision.

:

00:31:23,917 --> 00:31:24,187

We got.

:

00:31:24,187 --> 00:31:24,277

Right.

:

00:31:25,507 --> 00:31:26,197

I'll record you.

:

00:31:26,347 --> 00:31:26,377

I

:

00:31:26,377 --> 00:31:26,917

Chris: am the director.

:

00:31:26,917 --> 00:31:27,157

Yeah.

:

00:31:27,457 --> 00:31:28,027

Yes.

:

00:31:28,267 --> 00:31:28,712

That's me.

:

00:31:30,012 --> 00:31:31,057

I'm the captain now.

:

00:31:32,737 --> 00:31:33,847

So are you from here?

:

00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:34,597

Not

:

00:31:34,597 --> 00:31:35,317

Tara: originally.

:

00:31:35,317 --> 00:31:37,057

I'm originally from Rhode Island, so.

:

00:31:37,207 --> 00:31:37,357

Okay.

:

00:31:37,357 --> 00:31:38,437

New England girl.

:

00:31:38,527 --> 00:31:40,417

But, uh, I've been down

here a very long time.

:

00:31:40,447 --> 00:31:44,947

I think I've, I wanna say 20 years.

:

00:31:45,067 --> 00:31:45,847

A little over 20 years.

:

00:31:45,852 --> 00:31:45,992

Okay.

:

00:31:45,997 --> 00:31:46,387

So

:

00:31:46,657 --> 00:31:47,737

Tyler: what brought you

down here originally?

:

00:31:48,102 --> 00:31:51,417

Tara: We wanted to get away from the snow,

and then we moved to Charlotte, North

:

00:31:51,417 --> 00:31:53,322

Carolina, like, or Monroe near there.

:

00:31:53,352 --> 00:31:53,382

Okay.

:

00:31:53,382 --> 00:31:53,562

Yeah.

:

00:31:53,652 --> 00:31:56,772

And then it was super

cold and it was snowing.

:

00:31:56,772 --> 00:31:58,752

It was like they still get snow, right?

:

00:31:58,812 --> 00:31:59,082

Yeah.

:

00:31:59,172 --> 00:31:59,742

Not far enough.

:

00:31:59,802 --> 00:32:00,102

Yeah.

:

00:32:00,102 --> 00:32:02,382

Well, my dad's job, uh,

we moved around a bit.

:

00:32:02,382 --> 00:32:04,962

Like we lived in Rhode Island,

New Hampshire, and then he could

:

00:32:04,962 --> 00:32:06,312

get transferred to the south.

:

00:32:06,312 --> 00:32:07,332

So he was like, oh, the South.

:

00:32:07,332 --> 00:32:08,472

Yeah, let's get away from the snow.

:

00:32:09,882 --> 00:32:10,182

Yeah.

:

00:32:10,392 --> 00:32:11,382

It's not south enough.

:

00:32:11,557 --> 00:32:11,572

Yeah, no.

:

00:32:12,502 --> 00:32:15,712

And then we had the opportunity to

come to the beach, and so we did.

:

00:32:16,207 --> 00:32:16,687

Guys: Oh, nice.

:

00:32:16,717 --> 00:32:16,837

Yeah,

:

00:32:17,617 --> 00:32:18,277

Chris: just curious.

:

00:32:18,547 --> 00:32:22,317

Tara: Yeah, we moved to Brunswick County,

so I went to high school out there.

:

00:32:22,377 --> 00:32:22,797

Oh, okay.

:

00:32:22,857 --> 00:32:23,037

Yep.

:

00:32:23,097 --> 00:32:24,207

I went to the early college.

:

00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:26,567

Tyler: Do you still you're young?

:

00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:27,407

Tara: Yep.

:

00:32:28,727 --> 00:32:32,777

Chris: Oh, island because the early

college was like, uh, Hanover's

:

00:32:32,777 --> 00:32:37,397

early college, like New River

County started when I was a senior.

:

00:32:38,117 --> 00:32:38,777

Gotcha.

:

00:32:38,807 --> 00:32:38,897

Okay.

:

00:32:38,897 --> 00:32:41,147

So that's how I know that's age people.

:

00:32:41,177 --> 00:32:41,447

Okay.

:

00:32:41,447 --> 00:32:41,717

Yeah.

:

00:32:42,212 --> 00:32:42,632

Yeah,

:

00:32:42,722 --> 00:32:45,362

Tara: I also look very

young, but I'm almost 30.

:

00:32:45,447 --> 00:32:45,737

Yeah.

:

00:32:45,837 --> 00:32:47,777

Yeah, I just turned 29, but yeah.

:

00:32:47,777 --> 00:32:48,292

And just the hair.

:

00:32:48,647 --> 00:32:49,037

Yeah.

:

00:32:49,517 --> 00:32:49,727

Yeah.

:

00:32:49,727 --> 00:32:51,257

It's the hair and the pale skin.

:

00:32:52,967 --> 00:32:53,537

Very Irish.

:

00:32:54,527 --> 00:32:56,672

But yeah, and it was, it

was nice being out there.

:

00:32:56,672 --> 00:32:58,892

I mean, every time I go into

Brunswick County, there's a

:

00:32:58,892 --> 00:33:00,572

million things new over there.

:

00:33:01,142 --> 00:33:03,212

But it's, I like, I love Wilmington.

:

00:33:03,212 --> 00:33:03,452

I'm.

:

00:33:04,022 --> 00:33:06,932

After high school, I went to

ECU for a year, realized I

:

00:33:06,932 --> 00:33:09,632

should transfer 'cause be smart.

:

00:33:11,137 --> 00:33:12,422

I know myself.

:

00:33:13,352 --> 00:33:15,482

So I transferred to UNCW

and finished out there.

:

00:33:15,752 --> 00:33:16,082

Tyler: Oh, nice.

:

00:33:16,922 --> 00:33:17,222

Yeah,

:

00:33:17,467 --> 00:33:22,202

Chris: I, I keep seeing video like

I was at, went to ECU for a bit and

:

00:33:22,202 --> 00:33:25,352

then I joined the National Guard

and the unit was based outside of

:

00:33:25,382 --> 00:33:27,002

east, like outside of Greenville.

:

00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:27,182

Mm-hmm.

:

00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:32,072

So for like seven years I was going

into town, drinking, doing whatever.

:

00:33:32,867 --> 00:33:36,137

I just saw the progression of them, like,

we don't wanna be a party school anymore.

:

00:33:36,137 --> 00:33:38,417

So they kept like shutting

down all the good bars.

:

00:33:38,447 --> 00:33:38,507

Yeah.

:

00:33:38,897 --> 00:33:41,507

And then I just saw a TikTok

the other day and I'm like.

:

00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:43,772

Oh, they still have bars.

:

00:33:43,802 --> 00:33:44,072

Yeah.

:

00:33:44,132 --> 00:33:46,442

I didn't know that there was

anything in town anymore.

:

00:33:46,442 --> 00:33:47,642

I thought there was only like three.

:

00:33:47,822 --> 00:33:48,272

Tara: Oh, yeah.

:

00:33:48,332 --> 00:33:48,482

Yeah.

:

00:33:48,482 --> 00:33:49,682

They've, they've grown a lot.

:

00:33:49,802 --> 00:33:52,467

Sub dogs is now like two stories now.

:

00:33:52,472 --> 00:33:53,282

Yeah, two stories.

:

00:33:53,972 --> 00:33:54,003

Oh, wow.

:

00:33:54,003 --> 00:33:54,004

Huge.

:

00:33:54,009 --> 00:33:54,107

Wow.

:

00:33:54,112 --> 00:33:54,392

Yeah.

:

00:33:54,512 --> 00:33:56,402

Chris: I'm still trying to figure

out how still life is around.

:

00:33:57,482 --> 00:33:57,782

Tara: I know.

:

00:33:57,812 --> 00:34:02,162

Well now they, I think I heard they

open up a third floor that's 25 and up.

:

00:34:03,812 --> 00:34:04,592

Oh, yeah.

:

00:34:04,892 --> 00:34:05,672

More expensive.

:

00:34:05,672 --> 00:34:07,952

Like vodka's, bourbons

up there, but I'm like.

:

00:34:08,387 --> 00:34:12,137

I don't know if I'd wanna go

through the bottom part of the No.

:

00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:12,286

To

:

00:34:12,286 --> 00:34:12,887

Tyler: get up there.

:

00:34:12,891 --> 00:34:13,002

There.

:

00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:13,967

An outdoor entrance.

:

00:34:15,077 --> 00:34:15,078

Chris: Yes.

:

00:34:15,078 --> 00:34:15,079

Yeah.

:

00:34:15,377 --> 00:34:20,147

No, I miss, so when I was at ECU,

that was back in the days when they

:

00:34:20,147 --> 00:34:21,766

were allowed to do like penny drinks.

:

00:34:22,097 --> 00:34:22,577

Oh yeah.

:

00:34:22,577 --> 00:34:22,578

Yeah.

:

00:34:22,583 --> 00:34:26,717

So we were all completely

gone every single week.

:

00:34:26,717 --> 00:34:26,987

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:34:27,962 --> 00:34:30,197

Chris: And that explains

why they've passed laws that

:

00:34:30,197 --> 00:34:31,187

you can't do that anymore.

:

00:34:31,516 --> 00:34:31,877

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:34:31,877 --> 00:34:35,387

'cause didn't, somewhere

downtown did like nickel drinks.

:

00:34:35,762 --> 00:34:36,871

Chris: Down here or up there?

:

00:34:36,871 --> 00:34:36,962

Yeah.

:

00:34:37,232 --> 00:34:38,342

Tara: No, downtown Wilmington.

:

00:34:38,342 --> 00:34:38,371

Oh

:

00:34:38,371 --> 00:34:38,672

Chris: yeah.

:

00:34:39,242 --> 00:34:42,452

So, Oliver Twist, which is

where Blind Elephant is.

:

00:34:42,692 --> 00:34:43,052

Yeah.

:

00:34:43,322 --> 00:34:47,282

That they used to do like

Thursday nights you could get like

:

00:34:47,762 --> 00:34:50,522

Nickel Bud Lights or like Yeah.

:

00:34:50,702 --> 00:34:51,902

Tencent Bud Lights.

:

00:34:52,052 --> 00:34:52,262

Yeah.

:

00:34:52,621 --> 00:34:53,612

And they firs

:

00:34:53,612 --> 00:34:56,911

Tyler: they still had penny

drinks back in my college days.

:

00:34:56,942 --> 00:34:57,302

Yeah,

:

00:34:57,302 --> 00:34:57,303

Tara: yeah.

:

00:34:57,602 --> 00:34:59,342

Well, no, someone was doing it recently.

:

00:34:59,762 --> 00:35:00,212

Oh, really?

:

00:35:00,212 --> 00:35:00,632

Was it?

:

00:35:00,662 --> 00:35:00,992

Yeah.

:

00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:03,632

I think it was one of the

clubs they were doing it.

:

00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:06,202

But I mean, I remember

when Bar had Dollar Wells

:

00:35:06,592 --> 00:35:07,162

Chris: Mondays.

:

00:35:07,162 --> 00:35:07,792

Oh yeah, that's right.

:

00:35:08,482 --> 00:35:09,052

Tara: It was a great time.

:

00:35:09,352 --> 00:35:09,562

Yeah.

:

00:35:10,252 --> 00:35:13,402

Chris: I, well, yeah, I grew up on

River Rat when it was on the corner.

:

00:35:13,822 --> 00:35:14,062

Oh yeah.

:

00:35:14,122 --> 00:35:15,292

The og, river Rat and the

:

00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:15,742

Tara: Whiskey.

:

00:35:16,132 --> 00:35:16,342

Tyler: Mm-hmm.

:

00:35:16,792 --> 00:35:17,332

Tara: Those were great.

:

00:35:18,322 --> 00:35:19,102

Tyler: It's the good old days.

:

00:35:19,162 --> 00:35:19,792

I was gonna say.

:

00:35:19,882 --> 00:35:20,962

It's not the same anymore.

:

00:35:21,172 --> 00:35:21,352

Yeah.

:

00:35:22,282 --> 00:35:22,342

I

:

00:35:22,342 --> 00:35:26,302

Chris: mean, uh, Christian

was involved with that.

:

00:35:26,422 --> 00:35:26,782

Yeah.

:

00:35:27,802 --> 00:35:29,152

You should check out his episode.

:

00:35:29,512 --> 00:35:29,602

Yeah.

:

00:35:29,602 --> 00:35:33,382

He was involved with a bunch of stuff

downtown invested in whiskey now he was

:

00:35:33,382 --> 00:35:35,632

invested in, in the Kent Street studio.

:

00:35:36,322 --> 00:35:36,472

Yeah.

:

00:35:36,472 --> 00:35:37,462

Which is where we're at now.

:

00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:37,637

Yeah.

:

00:35:38,872 --> 00:35:38,932

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:35:40,132 --> 00:35:40,702

Great segue.

:

00:35:41,062 --> 00:35:41,212

Guys: Yeah.

:

00:35:42,772 --> 00:35:45,952

Tyler: So you, right before Covid

you had finished your masters?

:

00:35:46,012 --> 00:35:46,102

Mm-hmm.

:

00:35:46,792 --> 00:35:48,852

And was that also in marketing?

:

00:35:49,272 --> 00:35:52,512

Tara: No, actually it was in

higher education leadership.

:

00:35:52,872 --> 00:35:53,472

Tyler: Oh, okay.

:

00:35:53,832 --> 00:35:54,552

To be a principal.

:

00:35:55,017 --> 00:35:55,437

Tara: No.

:

00:35:55,437 --> 00:35:59,247

Well, I was more focused in

student affairs at colleges.

:

00:35:59,817 --> 00:35:59,848

Oh, okay.

:

00:35:59,853 --> 00:35:59,877

Okay.

:

00:35:59,877 --> 00:36:03,777

So I ran the marketing

department for campus rec.

:

00:36:03,867 --> 00:36:04,077

Guys: Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:04,377 --> 00:36:04,707

Which

:

00:36:04,707 --> 00:36:05,277

Tara: I loved.

:

00:36:05,277 --> 00:36:07,497

So I was still doing marketing.

:

00:36:07,497 --> 00:36:07,587

Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:07,887 --> 00:36:10,347

Teaching students graphic

design and all these things.

:

00:36:10,737 --> 00:36:13,987

And then doing higher ed

leadership work as well.

:

00:36:14,827 --> 00:36:15,037

Very nice.

:

00:36:15,037 --> 00:36:15,097

Yeah.

:

00:36:15,337 --> 00:36:17,077

My thesis.

:

00:36:17,467 --> 00:36:21,697

Was half a project, half thesis, but

it was towards veterans and campus

:

00:36:21,697 --> 00:36:23,197

recreation and combining those.

:

00:36:24,127 --> 00:36:24,219

Tyler: Wow, that's neat.

:

00:36:24,224 --> 00:36:24,272

Yeah.

:

00:36:24,877 --> 00:36:25,267

That's really cool.

:

00:36:25,777 --> 00:36:28,237

So you're kind of able to put like

everything together that you've

:

00:36:28,297 --> 00:36:31,897

gone to school for into what you're

doing now, and I'm sure in more

:

00:36:31,957 --> 00:36:33,697

active, possibly more fun ways.

:

00:36:33,742 --> 00:36:34,032

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:36:34,037 --> 00:36:34,807

Yeah.

:

00:36:34,807 --> 00:36:35,527

It's like I've.

:

00:36:36,307 --> 00:36:38,767

When I was preparing for this, I

was kind of looking back and I was

:

00:36:38,767 --> 00:36:42,517

like, I've done a lot of different

things, but it's brought me here.

:

00:36:42,607 --> 00:36:42,877

Guys: Right.

:

00:36:42,972 --> 00:36:46,212

Tara: I always had a foothold in service

industry, whether I was waitressing

:

00:36:46,212 --> 00:36:47,802

or bartending through all of it.

:

00:36:47,862 --> 00:36:48,102

Guys: Right.

:

00:36:48,272 --> 00:36:53,312

Tara: And it just kind of grew into this,

like did the marketing communication.

:

00:36:53,312 --> 00:36:53,402

Mm-hmm.

:

00:36:53,902 --> 00:36:55,372

And then went on to higher ed.

:

00:36:55,402 --> 00:36:58,252

Love working with students, building

community, connecting with people.

:

00:36:58,252 --> 00:36:58,342

Right.

:

00:36:58,552 --> 00:37:01,282

Teaching transferable

skills in any way possible.

:

00:37:01,827 --> 00:37:04,887

So still being able to, to do

that with the community here

:

00:37:04,887 --> 00:37:07,167

through a fun, unique bar

:

00:37:07,172 --> 00:37:07,462

Guys: Yeah.

:

00:37:08,637 --> 00:37:10,527

Tara: Is kind of became the goal.

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00:37:10,797 --> 00:37:11,007

Tyler: Nice.

:

00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:11,547

Yeah.

:

00:37:11,547 --> 00:37:12,957

It's the best of all the worlds.

:

00:37:12,987 --> 00:37:13,347

Yes.

:

00:37:13,377 --> 00:37:13,827

Yeah.

:

00:37:13,827 --> 00:37:14,397

That's cool.

:

00:37:15,597 --> 00:37:16,077

Chris: What are y'all doing

:

00:37:16,077 --> 00:37:16,377

Tyler: tomorrow?

:

00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:18,597

Chris: Monday?

:

00:37:18,747 --> 00:37:18,927

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:37:19,352 --> 00:37:19,742

Chris: I don't know.

:

00:37:20,012 --> 00:37:21,722

I'm on spring break, so Okay.

:

00:37:21,932 --> 00:37:22,562

We'll figure something out.

:

00:37:22,567 --> 00:37:23,582

Might have some You

might come in tomorrow.

:

00:37:24,062 --> 00:37:24,122

Yeah.

:

00:37:24,302 --> 00:37:24,812

Which.

:

00:37:26,897 --> 00:37:29,027

All these things, like you

mentioned combine and you're doing

:

00:37:29,027 --> 00:37:30,377

a great job in the community.

:

00:37:30,887 --> 00:37:35,747

I haven't heard nay a bad word about

good lie or yourself says a lot.

:

00:37:36,557 --> 00:37:41,358

Which does lead me to my question,

what does success look like for you?

:

00:37:42,012 --> 00:37:42,232

So

:

00:37:43,517 --> 00:37:46,007

Tara: success for me is

kind of in two parts.

:

00:37:46,007 --> 00:37:50,897

Like individual success

is having freedom where.

:

00:37:51,242 --> 00:37:54,212

I work really hard, but I

love to travel the world.

:

00:37:54,242 --> 00:37:54,332

Mm-hmm.

:

00:37:54,572 --> 00:37:59,402

So having that freedom where I can step

away from the business, not like leave

:

00:37:59,402 --> 00:38:03,272

the business, but I can leave for two

weeks and trust that everything that

:

00:38:03,272 --> 00:38:07,892

I've done and people that I've hired,

it will run smoothly if I'm not there.

:

00:38:08,322 --> 00:38:12,522

So just having that freedom to

live and travel and all of that.

:

00:38:13,002 --> 00:38:13,722

But then.

:

00:38:15,177 --> 00:38:18,237

Business success, like

sales are wonderful, right?

:

00:38:18,327 --> 00:38:23,277

Increasing sales all day

good is the peak of success.

:

00:38:23,277 --> 00:38:31,437

But really to me, it's when people come in

and they're showing true joy, like whether

:

00:38:31,437 --> 00:38:33,237

it's really enjoying a cocktail mm-hmm.

:

00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:35,457

Or just having fun meeting someone new.

:

00:38:35,877 --> 00:38:37,227

We have a lot of first dates.

:

00:38:37,377 --> 00:38:37,527

Guys: Mm-hmm.

:

00:38:37,887 --> 00:38:39,507

Tara: It's a perfect first date spot.

:

00:38:39,847 --> 00:38:42,757

But people cheering on the

course having a good time.

:

00:38:43,027 --> 00:38:44,917

'cause there's a million

things to do here.

:

00:38:45,217 --> 00:38:45,517

Guys: Yes.

:

00:38:45,632 --> 00:38:48,122

Tara: And people that come

in, they're choosing to spend

:

00:38:48,122 --> 00:38:49,442

their time and money with us.

:

00:38:49,802 --> 00:38:56,492

And so I want success to me as them truly

valuing where they've spent their time.

:

00:38:56,672 --> 00:38:56,852

Nice.

:

00:38:58,412 --> 00:38:58,742

Tyler: I like it.

:

00:38:59,072 --> 00:39:02,132

So after looking forward a little bit to

take a look back, if you could tell your

:

00:39:02,132 --> 00:39:03,632

younger self one thing, what would it be?

:

00:39:04,647 --> 00:39:04,867

Guys: Ooh.

:

00:39:07,802 --> 00:39:07,982

Got

:

00:39:07,982 --> 00:39:08,042

Tara: em.

:

00:39:11,132 --> 00:39:17,222

I would tell myself, summer bartending

is fun and great, but save all that extra

:

00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,832

money you made for the winter months.

:

00:39:20,612 --> 00:39:21,362

Definitely.

:

00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:24,422

It's like everybody's all

hanging out, having a great time.

:

00:39:24,992 --> 00:39:27,782

Spending all their money and then

winter time comes around, you're like,

:

00:39:27,962 --> 00:39:29,852

crap, how much did I make this summer?

:

00:39:30,002 --> 00:39:30,272

Right.

:

00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:32,012

Chris: I didn't realize that.

:

00:39:32,012 --> 00:39:34,202

This is a good point

in moving drastic here.

:

00:39:34,202 --> 00:39:34,562

Yeah,

:

00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:35,702

Tara: yeah, yeah.

:

00:39:35,852 --> 00:39:38,912

And normally it's not

too, too bad, but the.

:

00:39:40,097 --> 00:39:41,952

I mean, dry January mm-hmm.

:

00:39:42,032 --> 00:39:42,752

Takes a big hit.

:

00:39:42,752 --> 00:39:42,753

Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:42,957 --> 00:39:46,707

And then usually the march, April,

there's a big lull for service industry.

:

00:39:46,737 --> 00:39:48,117

'cause everybody gears up for St.

:

00:39:48,117 --> 00:39:49,437

Patrick's and then Ah, yes.

:

00:39:49,497 --> 00:39:51,237

And then they get a hang has

a hangover for two weeks.

:

00:39:51,352 --> 00:39:51,472

Right.

:

00:39:51,987 --> 00:39:52,137

Yeah.

:

00:39:52,317 --> 00:39:56,727

And then Azalea Fest and there's

kind of drop off before, like end of

:

00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:58,677

school, spring break, all of that.

:

00:39:58,767 --> 00:39:58,947

Yeah.

:

00:39:59,727 --> 00:39:59,877

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:39:59,937 --> 00:40:04,347

We have a friend that started

Leland Brewing and uh, when he was.

:

00:40:05,157 --> 00:40:07,557

First, like the first year,

like, oh, this is great.

:

00:40:07,557 --> 00:40:08,367

Like we're doing awesome.

:

00:40:08,577 --> 00:40:12,777

The first dry January that they

had, they're like, this is real.

:

00:40:13,047 --> 00:40:13,167

Yeah.

:

00:40:13,167 --> 00:40:15,177

Like people actually

don't drink in January.

:

00:40:15,237 --> 00:40:15,327

Yeah.

:

00:40:15,332 --> 00:40:19,137

Like they were really surprised, like

how far the numbers like kind of dropped.

:

00:40:19,287 --> 00:40:19,407

Yeah.

:

00:40:19,437 --> 00:40:24,057

They were like, it wasn't terrible, but it

was like Enough to make you like worried.

:

00:40:24,387 --> 00:40:24,567

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:25,437

It's like,

:

00:40:25,497 --> 00:40:25,857

Tyler: oh

:

00:40:26,727 --> 00:40:26,967

Tara: yeah.

:

00:40:26,967 --> 00:40:30,172

And that's why the whole like

Nas, the mocktails mm-hmm.

:

00:40:30,257 --> 00:40:31,527

Have grown so much because Right.

:

00:40:32,352 --> 00:40:36,552

Hospitality industry takes a huge

hit in January, which is, I mean,

:

00:40:37,632 --> 00:40:40,842

everybody should take a break from

drinking if they want or need one.

:

00:40:41,202 --> 00:40:42,822

But really you can take

a break anytime you want.

:

00:40:42,942 --> 00:40:44,892

It's just everybody collectively doing it.

:

00:40:44,952 --> 00:40:47,832

Yes, they're not going out to

restaurants and things like that.

:

00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:51,252

But providing a solution I

had so many people come in

:

00:40:51,252 --> 00:40:52,632

in January that were excited.

:

00:40:52,632 --> 00:40:56,232

We had zero proof cocktails

and other mocktails and stuff.

:

00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:56,502

Guys: Yeah.

:

00:40:56,507 --> 00:40:56,517

Yeah.

:

00:40:56,694 --> 00:41:00,444

Tara: And us being a new business,

we've only been open just a

:

00:41:00,444 --> 00:41:01,704

year, little over six months.

:

00:41:02,124 --> 00:41:02,604

Chris: Oh six.

:

00:41:02,604 --> 00:41:03,024

Oh gosh.

:

00:41:03,024 --> 00:41:03,354

Yeah,

:

00:41:03,624 --> 00:41:05,124

Tara: yeah, yeah.

:

00:41:05,124 --> 00:41:07,614

End of the last weekend of

September is when we opened.

:

00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:10,864

But I mean, we've still

been growing ever since.

:

00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:11,644

Tyler: Yeah.

:

00:41:11,644 --> 00:41:13,834

Every time that I've been in there,

it's been more and more people.

:

00:41:13,894 --> 00:41:13,984

Yeah.

:

00:41:13,984 --> 00:41:15,994

Like even on, like I think the

last time we were in there was

:

00:41:15,994 --> 00:41:19,594

like a random, like Tuesday or

something and it was still, yeah.

:

00:41:20,014 --> 00:41:22,084

And it was still like quite

a few people in there.

:

00:41:22,294 --> 00:41:22,564

Guys: Yeah.

:

00:41:23,044 --> 00:41:24,454

Tyler: And like, and off time too.

:

00:41:24,454 --> 00:41:26,584

I think we went like at four

o'clock, like on a Tuesday.

:

00:41:26,584 --> 00:41:27,094

It was weird.

:

00:41:27,184 --> 00:41:27,484

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:41:27,489 --> 00:41:29,334

Tyler: But but yeah, there's

still quite a few people in there.

:

00:41:29,934 --> 00:41:30,204

Yeah.

:

00:41:31,074 --> 00:41:31,224

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:41:31,224 --> 00:41:35,724

And we're, I mean, when we first started,

I had a big marketing plan for mm-hmm.

:

00:41:35,964 --> 00:41:38,034

Like opening business, new

business and everything.

:

00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:39,594

So I've just started readjusting.

:

00:41:39,594 --> 00:41:43,014

So, we have some really great

specials coming out soon.

:

00:41:43,164 --> 00:41:45,444

Like obviously we can't do a

happy hour with drinks, but

:

00:41:45,444 --> 00:41:47,394

happy hour golf could be a thing.

:

00:41:47,634 --> 00:41:48,174

True, yeah.

:

00:41:48,264 --> 00:41:51,529

But yeah, we've been trying

to push as much as we can to

:

00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:53,239

not have too much of a oil.

:

00:41:53,509 --> 00:41:53,629

Yeah.

:

00:41:53,629 --> 00:41:55,129

But, uh, still grow.

:

00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,559

'cause there's new bars popping

up everywhere all the time.

:

00:41:57,859 --> 00:41:58,789

There really is.

:

00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:59,209

Yeah.

:

00:42:00,019 --> 00:42:06,019

I mean, Azalea, or not, was

it Azalea Station or, uh.

:

00:42:07,804 --> 00:42:08,194

Was it St.

:

00:42:08,194 --> 00:42:08,734

Patrick's Day?

:

00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,054

Three bars open at one weekend.

:

00:42:10,379 --> 00:42:11,704

Tyler: Oh, oh yeah, that's right.

:

00:42:11,704 --> 00:42:11,794

Like

:

00:42:11,794 --> 00:42:12,094

Guys: what?

:

00:42:12,454 --> 00:42:16,234

Tara: Yeah, there's the

string and Key Odin.

:

00:42:16,234 --> 00:42:16,594

Oh yeah.

:

00:42:16,954 --> 00:42:17,884

And the Rift.

:

00:42:17,939 --> 00:42:18,399

Tyler: The Rift?

:

00:42:18,399 --> 00:42:18,559

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:18,994

That's the

:

00:42:18,994 --> 00:42:19,144

Tyler: one.

:

00:42:19,384 --> 00:42:19,894

All: Odin

:

00:42:20,494 --> 00:42:21,004

Tara: Odin Brewing?

:

00:42:21,034 --> 00:42:21,124

Mm-hmm.

:

00:42:21,364 --> 00:42:21,454

Where?

:

00:42:21,454 --> 00:42:22,294

New Anthem City.

:

00:42:22,384 --> 00:42:22,714

Chris: Oh, okay.

:

00:42:22,834 --> 00:42:23,344

Nevermind.

:

00:42:23,344 --> 00:42:26,104

I, I know somebody there.

:

00:42:26,524 --> 00:42:26,824

Tyler: Oh, really?

:

00:42:27,094 --> 00:42:27,334

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:42:27,844 --> 00:42:29,344

Chris: I somehow have a connection.

:

00:42:30,844 --> 00:42:31,834

Tyler: I was, forget about that place.

:

00:42:31,834 --> 00:42:31,894

I.

:

00:42:32,614 --> 00:42:32,674

So

:

00:42:33,184 --> 00:42:33,454

Chris: apparently

:

00:42:34,204 --> 00:42:35,404

Tara: they've done really

great work in there.

:

00:42:35,404 --> 00:42:35,464

Yeah.

:

00:42:35,549 --> 00:42:36,454

I haven't been in there yet,

:

00:42:36,604 --> 00:42:38,254

Chris: but their beer is actually good.

:

00:42:38,254 --> 00:42:40,084

They were at Feast.

:

00:42:40,504 --> 00:42:41,614

Uh, they were Oh, nice.

:

00:42:41,884 --> 00:42:46,024

Partnered with somebody and like,

I was there for work, so I, like,

:

00:42:46,054 --> 00:42:49,024

at the end of my cycle, I walked

through and I tried theirs.

:

00:42:49,294 --> 00:42:54,424

I was like, this is actually like

for a spot that's so new to have like

:

00:42:54,424 --> 00:42:55,984

decent beer is actually really nice.

:

00:42:56,164 --> 00:42:56,284

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:42:56,284 --> 00:42:56,494

Yeah.

:

00:42:57,724 --> 00:43:01,314

Tyler: Yeah, you guys have a good rotating

draft lift list and stuff too, I guess.

:

00:43:01,314 --> 00:43:02,784

Not too rotating, but

:

00:43:03,054 --> 00:43:03,774

Tara: we do.

:

00:43:03,884 --> 00:43:07,394

It's like we have main,

uh, lunch IPA, right?

:

00:43:07,394 --> 00:43:07,454

Yeah.

:

00:43:07,724 --> 00:43:08,984

Which is our biggest seller.

:

00:43:08,984 --> 00:43:12,314

It's a fantastic IPA, but the

rest of the beers, I really

:

00:43:12,314 --> 00:43:13,784

like to have a variety, so.

:

00:43:13,784 --> 00:43:13,874

Mm-hmm.

:

00:43:14,444 --> 00:43:16,814

There's some kind of

draft for everyone, right.

:

00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:20,654

And like we have a cider 'cause

we also do so saki cider bombs.

:

00:43:20,984 --> 00:43:21,044

Oh.

:

00:43:21,144 --> 00:43:22,344

They're very good.

:

00:43:22,704 --> 00:43:23,304

How much cider do

:

00:43:23,304 --> 00:43:23,904

Chris: you guys have?

:

00:43:24,234 --> 00:43:27,984

Tara: Uh, right now we rotate on flavors,

but right now we have a peach mango.

:

00:43:28,524 --> 00:43:29,244

Chris: That sounds good.

:

00:43:29,334 --> 00:43:29,514

Yeah.

:

00:43:29,514 --> 00:43:31,314

There jalapeno in it

or is just peach mango?

:

00:43:31,314 --> 00:43:31,914

Just peach mango.

:

00:43:32,274 --> 00:43:33,114

Oh, then I can try it.

:

00:43:33,294 --> 00:43:33,534

Yeah.

:

00:43:33,984 --> 00:43:34,134

Tara: Yeah.

:

00:43:34,164 --> 00:43:34,704

That's really good.

:

00:43:34,704 --> 00:43:36,834

But yeah, we do rotating

sours from Edmond Zos.

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'cause can't do wrong by their sours.

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But then we also have Edmond

Zos, they're in Charleston.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then.

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Light beer, something crushable,

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Guys: right?

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00:43:48,179 --> 00:43:48,449

Tara: Yeah.

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And then usually we have two

local rotating just depends.

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We kind of like to spread

out our local love, so it'll

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just be rotating local beers.

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00:43:57,959 --> 00:43:58,109

Chris: Cool.

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00:43:58,349 --> 00:43:58,589

Yeah.

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00:43:59,339 --> 00:43:59,579

Guys: Cool.

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00:44:00,509 --> 00:44:03,359

Chris: How can people

shout out the company?

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00:44:03,659 --> 00:44:07,169

So keep up with you guys and see

what's going on here in the next

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couple months and years in the future.

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00:44:09,794 --> 00:44:12,914

Tara: So most of our stuff we

put out is on Instagram and then

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shared through Facebook and stuff.

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00:44:14,264 --> 00:44:18,244

We have our website we do post on

TikTok, but Instagram is really the place

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00:44:18,244 --> 00:44:19,984

where we do daily updates all the time.

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00:44:20,164 --> 00:44:20,374

Cool.

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00:44:20,824 --> 00:44:22,624

Chris: How do you, what's

the handle for that one?

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00:44:22,684 --> 00:44:23,644

Tara: It is good lie.

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00:44:23,644 --> 00:44:25,359

Wilm, WYLM.

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00:44:25,709 --> 00:44:25,999

Okay.

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00:44:27,709 --> 00:44:29,134

Tyler: Thanks so much for coming on.

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00:44:29,134 --> 00:44:33,424

We appreciate you coming in and

telling us about it, and I'll try

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00:44:33,424 --> 00:44:37,294

to make sure I remember to put this

in order and try to get this out.

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00:44:38,389 --> 00:44:39,139

Wednesday.

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00:44:39,139 --> 00:44:39,169

Okay.

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00:44:39,499 --> 00:44:43,819

So if someone listens to it, they can

still try the you said this Wednesday

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00:44:43,819 --> 00:44:46,934

is like the first open, the open play

where you can practice and that Okay.

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00:44:46,939 --> 00:44:47,059

Yeah.

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00:44:47,299 --> 00:44:47,479

Guys: Yeah.

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00:44:48,139 --> 00:44:50,449

Tyler: We'll do that and hopefully

get some more people out there

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00:44:50,449 --> 00:44:52,249

and check it out and go on.

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00:44:52,249 --> 00:44:54,379

But it seems like the leagues

have been staying pretty full.

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00:44:54,439 --> 00:44:54,799

Yeah.

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00:44:54,804 --> 00:44:55,429

So we're

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00:44:55,429 --> 00:44:57,679

Tara: definitely need some

more signups, uh, right.

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00:44:57,739 --> 00:44:58,339

For this week.

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00:44:58,339 --> 00:44:59,599

But yeah, it's been good.

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00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:00,259

It's been really good.

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00:45:00,259 --> 00:45:00,494

Very good.

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00:45:00,709 --> 00:45:01,369

Well, thank you.

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00:45:01,459 --> 00:45:01,639

Yeah.

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00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:02,389

Thank you guys.

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00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:03,169

Nice to officially

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00:45:03,169 --> 00:45:05,479

Chris: meet you for you guys who.

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00:45:06,364 --> 00:45:09,394

I've been following us for a

while and haven't left, left

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00:45:09,394 --> 00:45:11,464

us a like, please do so now.

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00:45:11,914 --> 00:45:14,374

As per usual, usual, we'd love

it if you like, comment, share,

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00:45:14,374 --> 00:45:19,814

subscribe, go follow, good lie, WILM,

and follow us on all our socials.

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00:45:20,234 --> 00:45:21,044

We'll catch in the next one.

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00:45:21,464 --> 00:45:21,944

Cheers.

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00:45:22,064 --> 00:45:22,394

Cheers.

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