Episode 165

Mind Over Medicine: The Power of Mindset in Healing

Published on: 23rd April, 2025

In this episode of Whiskey and Wisdom, hosts Chris and Tyler engage with Ashley, a nutrition coach, discussing her journey from a traditional medical background to embracing a holistic approach to health. They explore topics such as the transition from coffee to mushroom drinks, the challenges of moving to a new state, and the importance of mindset in health and wellness. Ashley shares her personal health struggles and how they led her to discover naturopathy and ultimately start her own coaching business, Mind Over Medicine, focusing on the connection between mental health and physical well-being. In this conversation, the speaker discusses the importance of building a supportive community for wellness, the transition from traditional to alternative medicine, and the common health issues faced by women today. They emphasize the significance of gut health and provide practical steps for individuals to improve their health. The speaker also reflects on their personal journey and what success looks like in their health coaching business.

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Transcript
Chris:

Welcome back to the Whiskey and Wisdom Podcast.

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This episode you have your

constant cohost, Chris Kellum,

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and I'm with Tyler, y'all.

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And we have a virtual guest with us.

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Ashley: So I am Ashley

I do nutrition coaching.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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What else do you guys wanna know?

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Chris: No, that works.

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Yeah, that's perfect.

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Cool.

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And Ash Ashley is doing a

virtual episode with us.

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So she's drinking something

healthier than we are.

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Ashley: Yes, I am drinking a mushroom.

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It's like a mushroom blend.

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It's like a powder.

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It tastes better than it sounds.

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Chris: It looks like mud water.

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Ashley: It's similar to that.

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Okay.

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It's not mud water, but it is similar.

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It just doesn't have, I think

mud water has coffee in it.

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Right, right.

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Okay.

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This doesn't have the coffee in it.

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Tyler: So I've heard a lot of people

talking about the, the mushroom drink

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kind of replacing their coffees and stuff.

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Does it work as well as

what people claim It does.

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Ashley: So I, you know, my clients

always laugh at me because I'm

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not a coffee drinker by nature.

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So I'm not one of those people

that like needs that coffee.

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There's sometimes I'll

crave it, you know, but.

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I'll always say to them like

the mushroom is so deep and rich

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in flavor, like it's perfect.

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It overs the coffee.

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And then they tried and they're

like, well that was good,

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Tyler: but

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Ashley: like coffee.

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Ashley & Tyler: So

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Tyler: I have been looking to transition

out of my coffee habit into more of like

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that mushroom type of realm and stuff.

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And I actually did a decaf December and

so I almost completely cut out caffeine

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fully, so, and it made a huge difference.

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Ashley: Yeah.

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What?

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Do what?

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Like with your anxiety or what?

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I'm curious.

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Tyler: Yeah, so part of

it was being like anxiety.

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The other part too is I didn't

realize like how fast my brain was

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like trying to keep up all the time.

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I was like, oh yeah, like caffeine

never really does anything, but it's

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'cause my baseline was just so high.

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I.

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Ashley & Tyler: Right, right.

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Tyler: So I actually get more done

with my natural energy than I did

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with supplementing with the caffeine.

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Ashley: Yes.

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I've worked with so many that once we kind

of like boost their, their adrenal glands.

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Mm-hmm.

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And just like their overall health.

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They're like, I don't even

need the coffee anymore.

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And they're like, I am.

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What is happening?

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They're like so cool.

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Exactly.

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Tyler: Yeah.

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Ashley: They're like, I can do more.

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And I'm like, well, yeah.

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Like, that's your body.

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Yeah.

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Tyler: It was crazy because I was.

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Super addicted to caffeine

for the longest time.

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So I would have it like right when I

woke up, which is terrible for you.

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Yeah.

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And then I would need it maybe a

couple hours later and then I'd,

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I would maybe have an energy drink

or another cup of coffee at like

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two o'clock in the afternoon.

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And yeah, I had a lot of people

in my life, they're like,

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yeah, you need to stop that.

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Ashley: Yeah, no, I think it's

definitely easy, like when I do have

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coffee, to then have it, want it

the next day and then the next day.

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Right.

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It is, I think it's pretty

addictive, at least for me.

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So when I find that

happening, I'm like, no.

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All right.

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I'm gonna have like my tea

or my mushrooms or whatever.

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And I feel like that's.

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That works for me.

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Tyler: The only time where I really like

Stray and get back on track of like having

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too much caffeine is on our recording

days where like I just need to be on for

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eight hours from one stretch to another.

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And so like I'll do it then and then I

have to be off for the rest of the month.

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Ashley & Tyler: Yeah, totally get it.

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Chris: And then there's me.

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I just wake up and go, hello.

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And my wife hates it.

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She's like, why are you so wired?

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It's five in the morning.

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I don't know.

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I'm just like this.

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Ashley: That's awesome though.

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Oh.

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Definitely not a morning person,

but I appreciate people who are,

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Chris: I'm a person who can

wake up in the morning and go

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to work and then take a nap.

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Mm-hmm.

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And still fall asleep at a decent time.

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Tyler: All about the two o'clock siestas?

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Yes.

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Chris: Please Bring 'em back.

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Wait.

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Tyler, we, we'd gone

down the rabbit trail.

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What are you, what are we drinking on?

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Tyler: Oh yeah, we have

Hi West Bourbon today.

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Hmm.

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Chris: So have you had,

do you drink at all?

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Ashley: I will like here and there.

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I'm not a big drinker, but like,

I wouldn't know what you guys

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Chris: mm-hmm.

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Understandable.

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Well, I was bourbon super clean.

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Typically we're going back

to the old school days.

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Mm-hmm.

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This to me feels like a spring drink.

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Tyler: Yeah.

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It is lighter.

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It's a little bit lighter,

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Chris: But it has a little bit of a spice

to it, so that way you could drink it.

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Today when it was like 48 this

morning and then I'll get to 60

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and then I'll drop back down.

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But I think this would be a

good like springtime mixer.

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'cause I don't actually have the notes

in front of me 'cause unfortunately I

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don't have a laptop like we used to.

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But let me know.

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You guys, did you, do you

like our suggestions for

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when to drink these whiskeys?

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You want the tasting notes again?

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We will get it figured out for you.

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And this one of these years.

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Yeah.

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What one of these days?

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I mean, this episode is brought to

you by the amazing location of Kent

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Street Studio where me and Tyler

are gonna be posted for quite a bit.

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Having fun here.

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Just switching it up,

loving the new layout.

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So check out the, the visual episode on

YouTube, you guys, so you can see this

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amazing young person that we're chatting

with and also the the new studio layout.

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Yeah.

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But we're gonna get into it.

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So Ms.

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Ashley

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You're from Long Island?

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Ashley: I am.

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What part

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Chris: of the island?

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Ashley: So, actually I was born

in New Hampshire, to be fair,

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but we moved to Long Island when

I was like, not even one yet.

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Okay.

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And that's where our family is from.

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Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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Ashley: I lived in East Quogue.

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It was a really small town by like

West Hampton, if you're familiar.

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Okay.

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So I was like very close to the oceans.

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But like still that small town,

like I graduated high school

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with I think like 102 kids.

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Oh wow.

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And that was like multiple

towns, like going to that school.

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Yeah.

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So it was just like a really

small, like very Eastern Long

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Island area, if you will.

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But yeah.

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And then I moved here to South Carolina I

think about four years ago at this point.

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Almost four years.

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Tyler: Okay.

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What part of South Carolina.

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Ashley: So Taylor's originally

I was renting there that was

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where I had my son actually.

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Okay.

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In that apartment, a home birth.

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Oh, wow.

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Good.

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And what I

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Tyler: said was that planned?

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Ashley: It was, yeah.

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Okay, good.

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Actually, part of, part of kind of the

push to come down here, because in New

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York there's like one midwife place Right

Practice that kind of allows home births

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and they're very, very strict parameters.

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Yeah.

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As far as like, you need to be

transferred because of X, Y, Z.

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Whereas here it's, it just

seemed a bit more laxed.

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Mm-hmm.

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More normal.

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Right.

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More like, you know, common.

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So, yeah, that was, that was planned.

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It was awesome.

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Ashley & Tyler: It

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Ashley: was great.

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But, you know, very painful.

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And then I purchased this house when my

son was about six months old actually.

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Okay, nice.

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And I've been here since, but wanting

to come to the Wilmington area.

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Chris: Yes.

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Nice.

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So you're, so you're still

in the Taylors area, which is

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like Western South Carolina.

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Ashley: I buy Lauren's.

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Chris: Oh, okay.

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Ashley: It's like about 35

minutes from the Greenville area.

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It's still like the

upstate South Carolina.

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Tyler: Okay.

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When you came to visit Wilmington

and Leland in that area, what, what

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were your first thoughts of it?

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Ashley: So I was actually really surprised

at how much I liked Wilmington itself.

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So obviously all the Airbnbs are gonna

be more in the Wilmington area, right?

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Yeah.

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And I was just like, you know what?

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And I went with my parents because

right now we currently live about

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an hour away from each other.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're wanting to, we just

missed the ocean in general.

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There's not much like community

up here, if that makes sense.

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Like all the towns are so far, right.

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Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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Ashley: And it's, you know, long

Island coming from Long Island.

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All of the towns were like

5, 10, 15 minutes away.

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It's like very similar to

kind of how Wilmington seemed.

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So we just kinda like miss that

like people getting together

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and like, just congregating.

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And I think having the water,

people just tend to like, you know,

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everybody goes to the beach, right?

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There's kind of going on, you know,

so definitely wanna go there for that.

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I said to my parents, I was like, don't

judge Wilmington based on the Airbnb.

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Like, we're gonna go see Leland,

we're gonna go see other places.

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And we all ended up

really loving Wilmington.

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I, I didn't think that it was going to be

as, I don't wanna say small, but at least

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when we were there, it was very calm.

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Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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Ashley: And like crazy, like Greenville.

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If you go to Greenville.

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Even dead of winter.

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Like it's gonna be pretty crazy like this.

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Everybody's gonna be

walking on the streets.

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It's very city.

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Obviously not like New York City, right?

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Yeah, we just, we really loved Wilmington.

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We definitely don't wanna live there.

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It seemed like the houses were very much

on top of each place where we looked.

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But yeah, I mean, we just

loved the area in general.

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It was awesome.

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Tyler: Nice.

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So did you start, your business

before you moved down or was

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that part of the move down here?

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Kind of starting everything together?

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Ashley: So I don't know how deep

you want me to get here, but, so my

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father's son and I moved down together.

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Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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Ashley: that point I was coming from

working in a naturopathic doctor's office.

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Just kind like shadowing the doctors

and like learning alongside them.

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I was in the midst of doing my

pre-meds, finished those, was gonna

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go to naturopathic med school.

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Mm-hmm.

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But I didn't want to

get the Covid vaccine.

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Ashley & Tyler: Yep.

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Ashley: And that was like, right what?

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Right when I finished my pre-meds was

like, right when all the shit kind of

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hit the fan and I, it was like tears.

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I was like, what am I gonna do now?

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Like, what to do?

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So I, I went and I shadowed the

naturopathic doctors and I was like,

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maybe I'll just like get my, my

nutrition certification and you know,

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kind of just do some things from there.

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But at that point, like I didn't.

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I, at least I wasn't aware so much

of like the online coaching space.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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So I was just doing like a lot of

in person and honestly, I'm super

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grateful for it because I think that's

where I learned the most for sure.

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Like even with like my pre-meds and

my certifications and all the things,

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I, I think just being there in the

office and seeing kind of how they,

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they work with patients, was priceless.

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But so yeah, when I moved down here,

I kind of just did it like on a whim.

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My, my, my son's father

was like, don't worry.

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Like I have, you have Callum, you know,

I'll, I'll cover the rent, all the things.

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He ended up leaving a week postpartum.

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And I, I don't know, like I, when

I look at my life now, like I don't

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know how I got to here, you know?

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So, I.

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Yeah, I didn't even have

family there at the time.

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It was literally just me and my son,

like in an apartment in a random stage.

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Good for you.

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Tyler: That's major perseverance.

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Ashley: Well, so I think that

that's, you know, I think

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everybody goes through bad times.

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Right.

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And I think that I.

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There was a time where,

you know, I was like, why?

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Like why is this happening to me?

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Like, what did I do that

like deserved this, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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But now like coming out of the

other side, I feel like I am able

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to say like, thank you God for this.

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Instead of like, why me God?

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Because I think when we're able to like.

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Take the bad and not just sit there in it

and like just fester in that darkness and

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we can see the light at the end of the

tunnel and like have goals and what, okay,

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what am I gonna do from this point on?

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Instead of like, okay,

this is what happened.

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I'm gonna just kind of

sit in this hole, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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I think when you're able to do

that, God is gonna help you do that.

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And kind of like open those doors

and the paths of like, okay,

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this is gonna work out and like

this is how it's gonna work out.

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And you know, all of these

things start happening.

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And I don't think, if I didn't go

through that, I don't think I would

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have my business that I have right now.

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I don't think I'd own my

house that I have right now.

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I don't think that I would be

in the place that I'm at because

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I, I sought out a life coach.

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You know, I sought out all of these

different things and I was like, I'm

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just, this is just what I'm doing.

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Like this is just what's gonna

happen and I'm just gonna do it.

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And not to take the credit,

I truly believe that like God

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definitely had his hand on it.

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But.

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When we, I think when we allow bad

things to be turned to good mm-hmm.

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Through God, I think that, and we kind of

relinquish our control of like, this is,

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this is what has to happen and this is

what I want, but like, God, please show me

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the way if this is what it's meant for me.

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I think our life works out so

much better than if we could

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kind of control it ourselves.

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So, yeah.

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I, I.

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Give it all to God where I'm,

where I'm kind of at right now.

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Tyler: I love it.

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Maggie, agree with that completely too.

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It seems like the more that you leave your

hands off of kind of what's going on in

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life and leave it to the actual creator

of how he was created you, I think it

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makes more sense And you tend to go down

past that you never thought were possible.

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I guess that leads into another question.

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Is that kind of where mind

over medicine comes in?

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Is that like part of the story too?

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'cause it.

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Seems very or is it just happenstance

that it all kind of comes together?

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Ashley: So, yeah, so my dad actually has

his own, he has his doctorate in in music.

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He's, he's played with butch trucks,

I don't know if you know from, mm-hmm.

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From the Allman Brothers.

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So he has his own like teaching company.

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He's always had it my whole life

and his, his mind over music.

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So when I was like, all right, I'm

gonna start my own company, I was like,

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what should I, what should I call this?

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And not that I'm super against

medicine, but I do think it's very

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over-prescribed without kind of looking

at lifestyle and all the things.

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So yes, mindset is huge.

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We go into mindset.

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We even have my life coach come

on with the girls once a month and

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just kind of talk to them and kind

of guide them more on that side.

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But I truly believe that the nervous

system, like our mindset and just

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like our overall nervous system does.

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Place such a huge and overlooked kind of,

I don't know, it just goes so much into

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are you gonna have autoimmune diseases?

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Are you going to have, you

know, painful periods even?

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Are you gonna struggle with your anxiety?

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Are you going to, you

know, have IBS right?

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That gut brain axis, there's so much

that the nervous system affects.

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That we don't realize, right?

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Like I have worked with clients that

have a perfect lifestyle, a perfect diet.

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They're taking the perfect supplements,

they're moving their body, they're

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going on walks, they're doing strength

training, and they're just bloated.

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They're feeling, they have the

brain fog, they have all of these

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things, and it's like, well, are

you just anxious the entire day?

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Like, do you do any sort

of stress management?

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Have you worked through any, you know,

and I don't, I don't mean to be like

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the woowoo girl on here, but like, have

you worked through your past traumas?

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Mm-hmm.

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Are there things mm-hmm.

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Stored, you know, because, you know,

you look at Chinese medicine, if

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you don't, they believe, at least,

you know, if you don't work through

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certain emotions, it's going to be

stored in different organs, right?

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So if we, you know, just wanna take anger

and frustration, which I think is a pretty

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common emotion across the board, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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That's gonna store in the liver, right?

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And if we look at the

thyroid itself, right?

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So the conversion of T four to T three,

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Ashley & Tyler: mm-hmm.

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Ashley: 60% of that happens in the liver.

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We're wondering why all of these

people, or especially women, I would

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say, right, you know, have these

thyroid issues when you know they're

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overburdened with these emotions.

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They have absolutely no outlet to

talk about it, to kind of let it out,

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to even allow themselves to think

that like what I'm feeling is okay.

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I think that we've been so conditioned

to think that like if we don't feel

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happy or joy or whatever all the time,

there's something wrong with us, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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So just kind of like having

that freedom to feel.

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What you're feeling and let it out.

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Don't be afraid to cry.

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I've gone on, I've come on calls with

clients so many times and they're

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like going through a hard time.

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We got on a call, we're kind of

recapping, making sure that they're

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supported and they just start crying

and they're like, I'm so sorry.

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And I'm like, can you just let it out?

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Right.

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Just cry, you know?

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Yeah.

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Because it needs to come out because we're

storing that and that's not gonna come

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out of the body until we let it out and

it's gonna manifest into other things.

419

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More physical things.

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Right.

421

:

So.

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I would say yes, I would say as far as

the name and just kind of what we do in

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our coaching mindset and just overall

nervous system balancing is huge.

424

:

And something that just is kind of a lot

of that missing piece to a lot of people.

425

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Tyler: So for me personally, a

lot of my family members are in

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:

the functional and holistic space.

427

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I've been following it for a long time.

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We have brought a lot of

people onto the podcast.

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That have been in the functional and

the holistic and healthy in nature.

430

:

Yeah.

431

:

First so I guess the question is,

do you have a very similar story

432

:

as everyone else where there was

something wrong, doctors weren't

433

:

listening to it, medicines were making

it worse, and you found a better way?

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Is that kind of how you got

into what you're doing now?

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Ashley: Yeah, 100%.

436

:

So I was always like, I, I did

competitive gymnastics, so I was always

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:

like a string bean, always very strong.

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Like, you know, didn't have any issues.

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I could eat pretty much whatever I

wanted and really not have an issue.

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And then I started, you know, you go

through that phase of partying, staying

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up all night, like all that stuff, right?

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Eating taquitos from seven 11 at 4:00 AM

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I never thought I'd do it until I.

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But I started having

digestive issues, bloating.

445

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I'd gained a good amount of weight

very quickly, and I didn't really

446

:

understand what was happening.

447

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I had dermatitis kinda

like around my nose.

448

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I was always tired.

449

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I was waking up multiple times throughout

the night, and at this point I didn't

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really know much at all about I.

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Like naturopathic medicine or

that there were even doctors that

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kind of practiced that, right?

453

:

Right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Ashley & Tyler: Like

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Ashley: all I knew was the doctor

I go to and I have a sore throat.

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And that was pretty much it, you know?

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So I actually had a boyfriend at the time

who was more into like that natural type

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:

Ashley & Tyler: healing,

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Ashley: and he was like, why don't

you go see like a naturopath,

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:

but kind of back up there.

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So I went to see my normal,

like normal doctor, right?

463

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And she basically was like.

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Hand Togo, she was like, you

should just try doing some sit up.

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Ashley & Tyler: It was

like, that'll fix it all.

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:

I

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Ashley: didn't say anything like I

was pretty young at that point and

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like, I, I didn't, I didn't know

how to communicate back to that.

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I was okay.

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And I just kind of like left, right?

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I didn't know what was

happening, you know?

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And, and I think that just like that in

and of itself is so huge because think

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of how many times that probably happens

to a woman in a different way, right?

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:

Mm-hmm.

475

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Maybe they're not saying go into situps,

but like, let's say that somebody

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comes in with painful periods or maybe

they didn't go to the bathroom, go

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poop for seven days, and they're like,

oh, why don't you take some MiraLax?

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:

You know?

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And it's like, well that's

really not gonna do any root

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:

cause of the problem here.

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But.

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I felt so like, like there

was, I was the issue mm-hmm.

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That like I was the problem and

like I just needed to go do sit-ups.

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Right.

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And like I knew it wasn't like I needed

to do sit-ups because it was bloating.

486

:

Yeah.

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Like I wasn't fat.

488

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Like I was super bloated, you know?

489

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So then I went to a GI doctor and

he, NOLA gave me this, it was like a

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gallon jug with like this powder on

the bottom basically to like help me.

491

:

Mm-hmm.

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The bathroom.

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But I did go to the bathroom.

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Like that wasn't like my issue.

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I just was super bloated.

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So he gave me this stuff.

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It was supposed to help me go to

the bathroom and I was supposed

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to drink the entire thing.

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So the powder on the bottom was

supposed to fill the rest up

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:

with water and drink it all.

501

:

I tried, I got like a.

502

:

Couple sips down and I was

like, I just can't do this.

503

:

And I started crying again, right?

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I'm thinking like, I failed my body.

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This is what I have to do to feel better.

506

:

It was just a disaster.

507

:

So then I did find a naturopathic

doctor and he did kind of take more time

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just like explaining to me, okay, you

have an overgrowth of this bacteria.

509

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This is what kind of

happens as a result of it.

510

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This is what we need to do to kind of

fix it, bring it back into baseline.

511

:

So.

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There were things that he did that

helped, but there were also things

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that he did that kind of made it

worse, that I can understand now.

514

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So he gave me like a probiotic

first, like right off the bat.

515

:

And you know, if there are any people

listening on here that know anything

516

:

about gut health, if your gut's

really bad, you can't just take.

517

:

It's gonna make things a lot worse, right?

518

:

So that's kind of what happened to me.

519

:

So I eventually got to the point

where I was just like, f all of this,

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:

I'm not taking anything anymore.

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And I was like, I am

gonna figure this out.

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:

Like I'm a very strong headed person.

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I'm just gonna do this.

524

:

So I just completely changed my diet,

completely changed my lifestyle.

525

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Switched out actually like

my, my household products,

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my personal care products.

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A whole bunch of things.

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A whole bunch of things.

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I probably spent tens of thousands

at the end of it, like just on

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doctors and different creams and

all the things, and I could have

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me now then that have been great.

532

:

Tyler: And that's what

you're doing, right?

533

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You're kind of helping those other women

that are in the very similar part that

534

:

you were in and just kind of, Hey, hey,

let's, let's skip all of the creams

535

:

and probiotics and let's, let's get

down to the get down to business here.

536

:

Ashley: Yep, yep, yep.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Chris: So.

539

:

Ashley: Yeah, go ahead.

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:

Chris: Oh, no, I was gonna say,

'cause you're doing, you've

541

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transitioned from mostly in person

to like online helping clients and

542

:

like helping people all across.

543

:

How does that work?

544

:

I've, I've always been curious, like when

you do virtual consultations and working

545

:

with somebody because I know some, I

know plenty of people who were like, when

546

:

Covid hit, they're like, the doctor's

useless because of telecommunication.

547

:

Like not being in person doesn't

always work, but I feel like what

548

:

you've shown and like the people

you've been working with, they

549

:

actually have shown improvements.

550

:

Ashley: So I think that, you

know, I don't know for sure, but

551

:

I would have to, you know, venture

to guess with the telehealth, I.

552

:

What are they talking to you about?

553

:

You know, it's like you go to the doctor

and you're pretty much gonna expect

554

:

to get a prescription written for you.

555

:

So it's like, how can they really be

helpful when like you're getting on

556

:

a call with them to try to help you

when it's like, that's not really what

557

:

they're kind of like trained to do.

558

:

Do you know what I'm saying?

559

:

Mm-hmm.

560

:

So what we do is we use trainer eyes.

561

:

So it's basically just

like a, an app, a platform.

562

:

I do have an assistant coach Casey,

who builds out like the workouts, helps

563

:

me with coaching, things like that.

564

:

So all of their workouts live

there, like they all have their

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:

own personalized calendar.

566

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We do also send them like

lessons about two each week.

567

:

So one from me and then one

from my, my assistant Casey.

568

:

And they, it's from us, you know,

we personalize it to what they need.

569

:

We get on a call with them initially,

kind of just figure out, you know,

570

:

what are you dealing with, what,

what's kind of your goals here.

571

:

It's usually just like a, you know, a

three to five minute video from the both

572

:

of us going over a certain lesson that we

want them to kind of master before kind

573

:

of going on to the next each week though,

we do get on live with all of them.

574

:

It's.

575

:

It's really awesome.

576

:

I, I am in tears probably, you know, at

least one call a month with them because

577

:

it really has become like a family.

578

:

So we get on, it's about an hour

sometimes it runs like an hour and a

579

:

half with them, and we kind of just use

that time to go over their check-in.

580

:

We do send them a check-in, so if they

have any questions, they put it on there.

581

:

We go over it on the call so

that everybody can kind of

582

:

learn from each other too.

583

:

Right?

584

:

Because.

585

:

Somebody might have a question

that somebody else never thought

586

:

about and they're like, wow.

587

:

Like I needed that answer and I

wouldn't have even known to ask it.

588

:

Right?

589

:

Yeah.

590

:

But it's also, you know, that

community and like that, that

591

:

kind of cheerleading squad that I

don't think a lot of people have.

592

:

And you know, when they kind of go

on this path of wellness and, and

593

:

this whole transition, a lot of times

they get pushback from like their

594

:

family or their friends or whatever.

595

:

And this is like that place where

everybody's going through the same thing.

596

:

Everybody's sharing their own experiences.

597

:

Ashley & Tyler: Ah, yeah.

598

:

Ashley: Everybody's kind of like, you

know, learning from each other and

599

:

kind of building momentum in their

own journey from each other, right?

600

:

Because we're all sharing our wins,

we're also sharing struggles, right?

601

:

And we're kind of helping

each other through that.

602

:

So on that call, we're also kind of

just figuring out, you know, what

603

:

is working, what's not working?

604

:

How can we continue to program,

program, each of their kind of

605

:

lessons continuing on from there.

606

:

Yeah, I don't know.

607

:

It's, it's pretty awesome.

608

:

We do do live calls with them, you

know, one-on-one if they need it.

609

:

Mm-hmm.

610

:

But, you know, they, they have

access to us every single day

611

:

through a, through a chat.

612

:

So yeah, they, they, they usually

don't like a one-on-one, but

613

:

it's, yeah, it's just, I love it.

614

:

It's awesome.

615

:

Tyler: You do touch on something

that's really important too.

616

:

When, like you said, when you

go to the doctor, the doctor's

617

:

like, Hey, you're the issue.

618

:

Like, go figure something out,

or I'm gonna tell you something

619

:

absolutely like ridiculous.

620

:

That's not actually gonna help you.

621

:

I, I'm sure it does feel very

lonely, I guess you could say.

622

:

So having that group of girls together,

just kind of getting together and talking

623

:

about what's going on in the struggles

that they're going on together and the

624

:

wins that they have together, I'm sure

it's really powerful for all of them.

625

:

Ashley: It real.

626

:

That's what I mean.

627

:

Like, I, I'm in tears, you know,

maybe even more than one call

628

:

a month, because it really is.

629

:

So I just, yeah.

630

:

I don't even, I don't even

know how to put it into words.

631

:

It's just the most, I'm honored.

632

:

It's like a blessing for me to be able

to help these women, because like I said,

633

:

a lot of times they get on that initial

call and they, you know, they talk about

634

:

everything that they've been through.

635

:

A lot of times they're in tears because

they're like, I don't even know.

636

:

What to do anymore.

637

:

Like I kind of am just talking to

you because like, because I just

638

:

sound like I don't, I'm not really

expecting you to be able to fix this.

639

:

Right.

640

:

Right.

641

:

And then they get through the

program and they're like, holy shit.

642

:

Like, what just happened?

643

:

How did this even happen?

644

:

Right.

645

:

Like I have a client right now

that's in her second trimester.

646

:

She went through, I think it was

three years of infertility and

647

:

miscarriages through all of it.

648

:

Mm-hmm.

649

:

Nobody ha ever asked her, okay, how

are your thi, how's your thyroid?

650

:

Right?

651

:

How are your hormones?

652

:

How, what are you eating?

653

:

Are you eating enough?

654

:

Can, are you eating enough to support

your MEbA metabolic processes?

655

:

Plus growing this baby?

656

:

Right, right.

657

:

What is actually going on here?

658

:

And it's like miscarriage

after miscarriage.

659

:

It's good.

660

:

Let's just try the same

thing over and over again.

661

:

Like, you know, so the fact that this

lady is about to have a baby, oh wow.

662

:

You know, three months.

663

:

Like that's, you know,

not to say, oh wow, me.

664

:

It's like, wow.

665

:

Like that's God.

666

:

Right.

667

:

I truly believe even like our

connection and like coming, you know,

668

:

our past crossing, I don't think

it's a coincidence and I feel like,

669

:

I feel that with every single client.

670

:

It's like.

671

:

You were kind of at this place

where you didn't know where else

672

:

to turn and you kind of were at

your wit's end ready to give up.

673

:

And now I'm able to kind of watch them

truly become this entirely different

674

:

person, not even by the end, literally by

like a couple weeks in, if they're really

675

:

diligent and they're doing all the things

that you know we're asking them to do.

676

:

Right.

677

:

So it's just.

678

:

It's more than I can take.

679

:

I'll start crying.

680

:

Tyler: Do you notice when people

are coming to you that they are more

681

:

willing to do what you and your I

guess co-founder of IT are putting out

682

:

there because they are searching these

alternatives that there's probably a

683

:

higher adoption rate than someone going

to a traditional western medicine doctor?

684

:

Ashley: Yes, 100%.

685

:

So, I think that.

686

:

That's kind of my ideal client, right?

687

:

Mm-hmm.

688

:

Is like, you've tried all the things,

like, I don't want you to come to

689

:

me and try this, but then also feel

like, let me go try the five other

690

:

things that my doctor's saying.

691

:

It's like, I would rather you

have tried those five things

692

:

first and then get to this point.

693

:

Right.

694

:

Right.

695

:

Because I've worked with clients, you

know, one specifically comes to my mind

696

:

that, you know, and, and, no, no, no,

down to her, but very trusting of doctors.

697

:

Mm-hmm.

698

:

Mm-hmm.

699

:

And very much, you know.

700

:

You know, birth control

doesn't do anything.

701

:

It's, you know, it's,

it's not gonna affect me.

702

:

It's just stops me from having babies.

703

:

Right.

704

:

It's like, and when they're,

they're doing, you know,

705

:

more of those western things.

706

:

Then trying to couple it with

this, it's like, well, we can

707

:

only really get so far, right?

708

:

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

709

:

Yeah.

710

:

Ashley: So far that I can really take you.

711

:

And then they're like, well,

well, why isn't X, Y, Z?

712

:

And I'm like, well, because you're

taking a synthetic estrogen every single

713

:

day that's affecting your gut and, you

know, tearing that apart and affecting

714

:

your liver, your lymphatic system.

715

:

And it's like, well, I, you know,

I, I can only do so much, right.

716

:

With what you're willing,

and that's fine, right?

717

:

But we also need to kind of

have that middle ground of

718

:

this is what reality is, right?

719

:

Mm-hmm.

720

:

I think that that's where that.

721

:

Comes in is sometimes clients

want you to change reality.

722

:

Right.

723

:

And it's like, I can't change reality.

724

:

I can just kind of tell you

the facts and guide you from

725

:

there, but I can't change facts.

726

:

Right.

727

:

That makes sense.

728

:

Tyler: Exactly.

729

:

If you're putting poison into your

body, there's only so much healthy

730

:

eating and working out you can do

before the, the poison takes over.

731

:

Ashley: Right.

732

:

Especially, I mean, some, some women are

on birth control for upwards of 10 years.

733

:

Tyler: Wow.

734

:

Yeah.

735

:

And they're like,

736

:

Ashley: well, I didn't

have any effects of this.

737

:

You know, when I first started,

they're like, oh, we're 10

738

:

years down the line now.

739

:

Tyler: It adds up.

740

:

Yeah.

741

:

Chris: Gosh.

742

:

Tyler: It is amazing kind of seeing

the, the huge transition of like, what's

743

:

the easiest, quickest way of getting

birth control into a human being from

744

:

like when I was in high school to

now when we're like, you know what?

745

:

This is actually not good for me.

746

:

Yeah, so it's, it is interesting

and probably very good that people

747

:

are realizing and starting to listen

to their bodies more as opposed to

748

:

the, the drugs that you hear on tv.

749

:

Ashley: Yeah.

750

:

And you know, even if we look

at the fertility rates right

751

:

now, like our generation is.

752

:

That was the birth control

that was at least like, you

753

:

know, a lot of the, the pills.

754

:

And if we look at the, the

statistics right now, infertility

755

:

is at an all time high.

756

:

Wow.

757

:

It's like, you can't tell me that

it's not because of birth control.

758

:

Like I see clients all the time,

they're coming off of birth control.

759

:

They're like, all right,

I wanna have a kid.

760

:

And it's like, well now you

have PCOS, you have endometrial.

761

:

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

762

:

All

763

:

Ashley: these things, and it's

like, it's heartbreaking because

764

:

they didn't know that this was what

was gonna come as a result of just

765

:

simply taking this pill that, you

know, doctors are just prescribing.

766

:

Like it's no big deal.

767

:

There's no side effects.

768

:

It just clears up your acne and it

gets rid of your painful periods.

769

:

And it's like, well, no, no.

770

:

Right.

771

:

Ashley & Tyler: Yeah.

772

:

Ashley: Bandaid it.

773

:

But yeah, I don't know.

774

:

Tyler: So do you, is there a

person that comes to you that's.

775

:

Like the, I guess you could say, typical

client that's seeking your services.

776

:

Like if you could describe like the

average human being that's coming

777

:

to you, if, if you can, 'cause not

everyone's gonna be average, right?

778

:

But the, the typical thing that comes

to you, that you can typically get

779

:

you that you can get them fixed.

780

:

Ashley: So a very wide range, right?

781

:

Because I, you know, gut health

is going to lead to a lot of

782

:

other different issues, right?

783

:

If that's not kind of fixed from

the root cause there, right?

784

:

So, a lot of our clients do struggle

with, you know, Hashimoto's,

785

:

hypothyroidism, IBS, which is, you

know, irritable bowel syndrome.

786

:

We do have some clients that have

Crohn's, simply chronic bloating.

787

:

You know, it doesn't

have to be a diagnosis.

788

:

It could be the, the bloating,

the brain fog, the acne no energy.

789

:

Painful periods is a

really, really big one.

790

:

I don't think I've ever talked

to a client, you know, off the

791

:

bat where they're like, yeah,

I don't have painful periods.

792

:

I don't have any bloating.

793

:

It's like every single one.

794

:

Mm-hmm.

795

:

Has brain fog, lack of energy,

painful periods, all the things.

796

:

And then I'm like, okay, have you

noticed that like your, your periods

797

:

have gotten worse over the, the years?

798

:

100% of the time they say yes.

799

:

Because that estrogen, so typically

when we have, you know, painful

800

:

periods, our estrogen's gonna

be pretty high typically, right?

801

:

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

802

:

Ashley: When our gut is damaged and it's

not imbalance, what our body does is it

803

:

continues to recycle that same estrogen.

804

:

Mm-hmm.

805

:

While, you know, if, let's look at

just our personal care products.

806

:

If we're using personal care products that

have synthetic fragrances in it, all these

807

:

different chemicals, synthetic fragrances

come into the body as Xenoestrogens.

808

:

Mm-hmm.

809

:

Which basically is synthetic estrogens.

810

:

They mimic the shape of our

naturally occurring estrogens.

811

:

So let's take, you know,

first off, our gut is.

812

:

I balance.

813

:

So our estrogens have continued

to, to kind of stack up already.

814

:

If we're on birth control,

it's gonna be even more.

815

:

Yeah.

816

:

Then we take those synthetic fragrances.

817

:

Okay.

818

:

We're adding even more, right?

819

:

And then are we drinking

outta plastic water bottles?

820

:

Are we eating, you know,

food out of plastic?

821

:

Are we heating our food up in plastic?

822

:

Right?

823

:

All of that is, is gonna come

out in as xenoestrogens, right?

824

:

And like I already said, about

60% of our T four to two, three

825

:

conversion happens in the liver.

826

:

So if we're backing up our li

our liver, our gut is damaged and

827

:

it's, those estrogens are not able

to kind of detox out of our body.

828

:

Yes, we're gonna see more of those

painful periods coming on over

829

:

and over and over again, getting

worse, over and over and over.

830

:

Right?

831

:

Because that estrogen's building

up and it has no release.

832

:

Right.

833

:

So I would say like.

834

:

90 to a hundred percent of the people

I talk to, the women I talk to,

835

:

that's what they're dealing with.

836

:

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

837

:

Yeah.

838

:

Ashley: As you know, time goes on and

they're like, oh, this is just normal.

839

:

'cause I think that's, I

think people do that a lot.

840

:

It's just like, okay.

841

:

This is what I'm dealing with.

842

:

I've dealt with this for a couple years.

843

:

It compounds with something

else, and it's like all of this

844

:

begins to just feel normal,

845

:

Ashley & Tyler: right?

846

:

Mm-hmm.

847

:

Ashley: So then they let it go, and now

it's like, oh, now it's Hashimoto's.

848

:

Now it's, you know, now it's Crohn's.

849

:

Now it's IBS.

850

:

Now it's all of these things

that are actual diagnosis.

851

:

But if we can actually go back to

kind of the beginning there, what

852

:

created that to happen, right?

853

:

It's the gut.

854

:

So if we can kind of reverse all of that

inflammation, open up our detox pathways.

855

:

Make sure that we're cleaning up

kind of our diet and our lifestyle in

856

:

general so that we're not overburdening

those toxins while we're trying to

857

:

kind of open up those detox pathways.

858

:

9.9

859

:

times outta 10, we see partial to

complete re reverse of, you know,

860

:

the things that these people are

dealing with because again, we're

861

:

going back to that root cause.

862

:

And we're supporting the body in the

way that the body is designed to work.

863

:

But because of our kind of modern

day lifestyle, it no longer

864

:

works the way that it should.

865

:

Right?

866

:

So we kind of just support everybody and

kind of getting back to that baseline.

867

:

And you know, the body's very smart.

868

:

We don't give our body much credit,

but it's smarter than we think it is.

869

:

So if we can give it what it

needs, it knows how to heal.

870

:

It knows how to feel better.

871

:

It knows how to kind of regenerate, right?

872

:

So.

873

:

We just kinda help your body

along, if that makes sense.

874

:

Yeah,

875

:

Tyler: yeah.

876

:

You touch on something that my functional

medicine doctor talks a lot about too,

877

:

is it may be common, but it's not normal.

878

:

Ashley: Yes.

879

:

I love that.

880

:

I say that all the time,

881

:

Chris: which is so

unfortunate for everybody.

882

:

You, you pointed out this earlier,

jumping into bad gut health with

883

:

probiotics is not good for you.

884

:

But the question is, what would be a

good first step for somebody who is

885

:

like, you know, I have all of these

issues, but I don't have either the

886

:

access to get into speaking with

somebody like, like yourself, or just

887

:

the time to just change over everything.

888

:

What would be like a good first step to

kind of see if that would be, if they

889

:

see any changes and then they'd be like,

oh, well then I probably shouldn't.

890

:

Shift from this traditional medicine to

try and find somebody who's gonna help

891

:

me a little bit more down this path that

I've already seen some progress with.

892

:

Ashley: Sure.

893

:

So I could totally hear how this could

seem really overwhelming of like, I

894

:

need to change all of these things all

at once and change my whole lifestyle.

895

:

And just to kind of like give anybody

that's listening some, some peace of mind,

896

:

it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

897

:

And I, we actually kind of encourage

it to not be all or nothing.

898

:

Mm-hmm.

899

:

Because we want it to

be sustainable, right?

900

:

Mm-hmm.

901

:

So like little by little, we're

implementing little things to

902

:

kind of master each week, right?

903

:

Because again, we wanna go

into that nervous system

904

:

more of that mindset, right?

905

:

Because when we can, accomplish things

and we, we are able to do it and carry

906

:

it out and hit that goal, we are going

to create more of that self-trust.

907

:

Right.

908

:

That self-confidence.

909

:

So then when we go onto the next week

of our lessons, you're gonna feel like

910

:

you can do these things because we've

built up kind of that self-esteem.

911

:

Right.

912

:

And that's so very real.

913

:

Yeah.

914

:

But if it, I would say, you know,

going back to the nervous system, if,

915

:

if it's somebody that just, you know.

916

:

Doesn't have money for anything.

917

:

Right?

918

:

And they just, you know, they're

dealing with the bloating, the

919

:

brain fog, all the things I would

say focus on your nervous system.

920

:

When you get up in the morning, don't

scroll on your phone first thing.

921

:

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

922

:

Ashley: Get in front of the

window, get some, some sunlight in.

923

:

Do some breath work.

924

:

That takes literally two minutes, right?

925

:

So we could do this.

926

:

4, 7, 8.

927

:

So breathe in your nose

for a count of four.

928

:

Hold it for a count of seven.

929

:

Breathe outta your mouth

completely for a count of eight.

930

:

You can do that three times in a row.

931

:

That's been shown to

reset the nervous system.

932

:

Right?

933

:

So when we wake up in the morning.

934

:

We are waking up because of a surge

in cortisol, whether it's you're

935

:

naturally, you know, just waking

up or your alarm is going off.

936

:

So from that point on, it's our job

to kind of bring that back down.

937

:

Okay.

938

:

A lot of women, you know, they wake

up and they're like, I'm not hungry.

939

:

I can't eat.

940

:

It makes me nauseous because

your cortisol is skyrocketed.

941

:

Right.

942

:

So what can you do to kind of

bring that down to just kind

943

:

of normalize those hunger cues?

944

:

That's gonna be huge in

and of itself, right?

945

:

And it's free.

946

:

So, like I said, get in front of

the window, do some breath work.

947

:

If it's warm out, maybe go get your

feet in the grass for a few minutes.

948

:

Maybe some mushrooms, right?

949

:

Mushrooms are gonna be great for,

like we talked about the powders.

950

:

It's gonna be great for your stress.

951

:

But get in the kitchen and get, you know,

a high protein breakfast in within, you

952

:

know, that thir first 30 to 40 minutes.

953

:

Maybe some light stretching and just

remember to breathe, because I think

954

:

there's a lot of people, especially me,

you know, especially on my days that

955

:

I'm super busy sometimes in my check-ins

I'll talk to, you know, I'll say, don't

956

:

rem you know, don't forget to breathe.

957

:

And then I'm, and then I kind

of showed them how to do it and

958

:

I'm like, oh, I needed that.

959

:

I didn't realize I wasn't breathing

for the last three hours, you know?

960

:

So I think just kind of reminding

yourself, let me take a deep breath.

961

:

Let me remember that.

962

:

Like, whatever I'm doing right

now that feels super stressful.

963

:

It's okay.

964

:

Like whether it's done in the

next five minutes or the next

965

:

five hours, like it's okay.

966

:

This is what it is.

967

:

Like, and kind of just accepting

this is what it is, and trying

968

:

to switch that mindset from go,

go, go, go, go fight or flight.

969

:

To, okay, this is like what I

have planned out for the day.

970

:

Maybe set three intentions,

you know, for your entire day.

971

:

Get those done.

972

:

Again, build that self-trust, that

self-confidence free, do it by yourself.

973

:

But I would say, I would say probably

that regulating your nervous system would

974

:

be the best thing that somebody could do

free for themselves on their own to begin.

975

:

Tyler: Yeah, I like that a lot too.

976

:

That's something that I always

have focused on and harped on

977

:

too, especially in the mornings.

978

:

Because I'm a big believer if

you don't start your morning off

979

:

right, you're probably not gonna

have the rest of your day planned

980

:

out as well as you'd want it to.

981

:

But if you can take that time for yourself

in the morning just to really like hone

982

:

in on where you're at, get the breath

work done, just get yourself in an even

983

:

playing field, then you can start tackling

the day a little bit more successful.

984

:

At least that's how it's

worked for me anyway.

985

:

Ashley: Yeah.

986

:

And it doesn't have to be

like a whole 30 minute thing.

987

:

Mm-hmm.

988

:

Like, and I think that's what kind of

turns people off to a morning routine.

989

:

I'm like, I totally get it.

990

:

When people used to tell me to

journal, I'd be like, go F yourself.

991

:

Like I'm not journaling anything.

992

:

It is ridiculous.

993

:

But if you can just take five minutes in

the morning, like literally to just look

994

:

out the window, do some breath work, write

those three intentions, it will truly be

995

:

maybe five minutes of your time, right?

996

:

Mm-hmm.

997

:

Like, you don't have to do a whole

like 15 minute yoga exercise and

998

:

like a whole thing, you know?

999

:

It's like, no, we, we don't have time

for that, but like you can still, you

:

00:37:58,657 --> 00:38:01,957

know, regulate the nervous system to

some degree with just those five minutes.

:

00:38:01,987 --> 00:38:02,017

Okay.

:

00:38:02,017 --> 00:38:02,032

So I

:

00:38:02,032 --> 00:38:04,162

Tyler: don't, so no, no

ice bath in the morning.

:

00:38:04,252 --> 00:38:04,552

Chris: Yeah.

:

00:38:04,552 --> 00:38:06,652

I was like, so I don't have

to dunk my face in like ice

:

00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,272

water, that's mineral water.

:

00:38:08,272 --> 00:38:11,152

And then rub bananas, peels

all over my face or anything,

:

00:38:11,812 --> 00:38:13,012

Ashley: you know, it's so funny.

:

00:38:13,312 --> 00:38:17,002

So my assistant coach, like I said,

she's, she's very fitness oriented.

:

00:38:17,002 --> 00:38:17,062

Yeah.

:

00:38:17,062 --> 00:38:20,152

And when we kind of

like came together, she.

:

00:38:20,347 --> 00:38:24,427

I didn't know much about like my side

of what I kind of bring to the table.

:

00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:27,667

And she was dealing with the brain

fog, the acne, the all the things.

:

00:38:27,667 --> 00:38:30,857

And she was like I was like, so

just tell me like, what, what,

:

00:38:30,857 --> 00:38:31,847

what does your morning look like?

:

00:38:31,847 --> 00:38:36,447

And she's like, well, I wake up and I

go in the bathroom and I, I rinse my

:

00:38:36,447 --> 00:38:38,007

face with really, really cold water.

:

00:38:38,007 --> 00:38:40,917

I'm like, okay, let's not do that anymore.

:

00:38:41,217 --> 00:38:42,057

Tyler: It's instant.

:

00:38:43,482 --> 00:38:45,222

Ashley: Yeah, so she,

and she was the same way.

:

00:38:45,222 --> 00:38:48,492

She was like journaling, like, oh, I

just can't, like, it's so silly to me.

:

00:38:48,492 --> 00:38:50,292

But like, she's doing

all of these things now.

:

00:38:50,532 --> 00:38:52,002

She no longer has painful periods.

:

00:38:52,002 --> 00:38:53,082

She no longer has acne.

:

00:38:53,082 --> 00:38:54,762

She struggled with

literally her whole life.

:

00:38:55,032 --> 00:38:55,782

No more bloating.

:

00:38:55,782 --> 00:38:58,392

She's leaner eating more

like all the things, right.

:

00:38:58,392 --> 00:39:02,472

And yeah, you know, it's

sometimes we want this.

:

00:39:03,072 --> 00:39:06,462

Magic answer of like, this is

what's gonna change everything.

:

00:39:06,462 --> 00:39:08,592

And it's like, it's really

like, not that sexy.

:

00:39:08,592 --> 00:39:09,852

Healing is not sexy.

:

00:39:09,857 --> 00:39:10,007

Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:10,087 --> 00:39:11,352

Like, it is the basics.

:

00:39:11,352 --> 00:39:16,362

It's, it's the, you know, really just

going back to basics of the boring.

:

00:39:16,362 --> 00:39:16,692

Right.

:

00:39:16,692 --> 00:39:20,712

And kind of mastering that again,

because we, we don't, we, we wake up

:

00:39:20,712 --> 00:39:21,972

in the morning, we scroll on our phone.

:

00:39:21,977 --> 00:39:22,247

Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:22,357 --> 00:39:25,747

We maybe go for like a Danish or a

donut or you know, something like that.

:

00:39:25,747 --> 00:39:26,557

Or our coffee.

:

00:39:26,557 --> 00:39:28,447

We go on our coffee and

we run out the door.

:

00:39:28,447 --> 00:39:28,717

Right.

:

00:39:28,717 --> 00:39:29,107

It's like.

:

00:39:30,022 --> 00:39:31,792

Let's just learn to nourish

ourselves a little bit.

:

00:39:32,602 --> 00:39:32,603

Yeah.

:

00:39:32,668 --> 00:39:36,568

Chris: So now that you're doing this

business, you've been doing this for a

:

00:39:36,568 --> 00:39:41,108

little bit and you've been impacting quite

a few lives my question for you would be,

:

00:39:41,108 --> 00:39:46,418

what does success look like for you in

like the long run or even the short term?

:

00:39:48,308 --> 00:39:50,678

Ashley: So I feel like.

:

00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:54,893

I'm happy, like I feel like

this is where I feel successful.

:

00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:57,713

Like I'm able to spend a good

amount of time with my son.

:

00:39:58,083 --> 00:40:02,883

The way that the business is kind

of structured now, it doesn't

:

00:40:02,883 --> 00:40:06,693

take too much of my time and we're

able to house a lot of women.

:

00:40:07,063 --> 00:40:09,553

Versus kind of, when I

first started, I was doing.

:

00:40:10,508 --> 00:40:14,408

Like with every single client I had, I

was recording videos every single week.

:

00:40:14,408 --> 00:40:14,498

Mm-hmm.

:

00:40:14,738 --> 00:40:16,478

Kind of giving them their

own personalized check-in.

:

00:40:16,478 --> 00:40:16,808

Right.

:

00:40:16,808 --> 00:40:20,078

Versus getting on like that group

call and, and talking to all the

:

00:40:20,078 --> 00:40:23,708

ladies, having their, their check-ins,

messaging them separately if need be.

:

00:40:23,958 --> 00:40:27,108

And kind of just supporting them in the

ways, you know, it's hard without you

:

00:40:27,108 --> 00:40:28,823

seeing kind of how it's all laid out, but.

:

00:40:30,483 --> 00:40:35,583

I just, I feel like I am very happy and

I feel like I am at a place where I feel

:

00:40:35,583 --> 00:40:40,143

like I've succeeded, kind of in being

able to help as many people as I can

:

00:40:40,353 --> 00:40:41,763

without kind of having that, alright.

:

00:40:41,763 --> 00:40:43,203

I can't really take any more clients.

:

00:40:43,203 --> 00:40:44,553

I don't really have time for it.

:

00:40:44,913 --> 00:40:47,433

We've structured it in a way that

we, we don't really have to turn

:

00:40:47,433 --> 00:40:52,603

people away anymore but can still

kind of tailor it to be very.

:

00:40:52,963 --> 00:40:53,713

Customized.

:

00:40:53,713 --> 00:40:54,643

It is very customized.

:

00:40:54,643 --> 00:40:57,163

You know, not, there's not one

person that's on the same program

:

00:40:57,163 --> 00:41:00,583

as somebody else within that

same kind of container, you know?

:

00:41:01,063 --> 00:41:05,713

But yeah, I mean, I think even being able

to, to go to Wilmington and afford to, to

:

00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:09,913

come closer to the beach, have my son, you

know, grow up on the beach and just have

:

00:41:09,913 --> 00:41:13,423

hopefully more of that community where

I think we're kind of lacking that here.

:

00:41:13,813 --> 00:41:14,443

That's it.

:

00:41:14,533 --> 00:41:16,243

I'm not like a complicated person.

:

00:41:16,243 --> 00:41:19,063

I think just having like the simple

things and being able to enjoy

:

00:41:19,063 --> 00:41:22,613

them fully and not be stuck in

that like fight or flight mm-hmm.

:

00:41:23,153 --> 00:41:25,703

Of go to work eight hours a day and

then I need to, you know, make the

:

00:41:25,703 --> 00:41:27,173

dinner and do this and the laundry.

:

00:41:27,173 --> 00:41:31,493

It's like, you know, I'm able to

kind of have that freedom while also

:

00:41:32,483 --> 00:41:34,103

helping a lot of, a lot of people.

:

00:41:34,103 --> 00:41:36,653

And I think that's, to

me, that's, that's enough.

:

00:41:37,793 --> 00:41:38,033

I like it.

:

00:41:38,393 --> 00:41:40,313

Tyler: So it sounds like there's

a better chance than not, you're

:

00:41:40,313 --> 00:41:41,543

probably gonna be moving out this way.

:

00:41:41,918 --> 00:41:42,338

Ashley: Oh yeah.

:

00:41:42,338 --> 00:41:43,778

No, we, we definitely are.

:

00:41:43,778 --> 00:41:47,048

I think for me it's definitely

the interest rates right now.

:

00:41:47,048 --> 00:41:47,138

Oh yeah.

:

00:41:47,198 --> 00:41:48,968

I'm hoping those come down.

:

00:41:49,388 --> 00:41:52,568

We are gonna come back this summer just to

kind of see what it's like in the summer.

:

00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:52,603

Mm-hmm.

:

00:41:52,683 --> 00:41:54,068

If it's like we're crazy.

:

00:41:55,088 --> 00:41:55,568

It's more crazy

:

00:41:55,568 --> 00:41:56,618

Tyler: than when you came the first time.

:

00:41:56,618 --> 00:41:59,168

But it's it's manageable

depending on where you're at.

:

00:41:59,798 --> 00:42:00,188

Ashley: Yeah.

:

00:42:00,488 --> 00:42:00,698

Yeah.

:

00:42:00,698 --> 00:42:02,828

So we just kind of wanna

see it again this summer.

:

00:42:02,938 --> 00:42:06,628

But yeah, 100% we're gonna, we're

gonna head that way when we can.

:

00:42:06,838 --> 00:42:07,348

Tyler: That's awesome.

:

00:42:07,798 --> 00:42:12,438

Where did you find your other coach and

kind of how does she play into how the

:

00:42:12,438 --> 00:42:13,908

whole, how the whole business is set up?

:

00:42:15,078 --> 00:42:19,118

Ashley: So I just feel like

it was so meant to be so she

:

00:42:19,118 --> 00:42:20,348

actually used to do body.

:

00:42:20,378 --> 00:42:24,038

We, we followed each other on

Instagram for quite some time and.

:

00:42:24,443 --> 00:42:25,853

She, I guess body.

:

00:42:25,853 --> 00:42:28,343

I'm not too familiar with body, but do

you guys know what I'm talking about?

:

00:42:28,343 --> 00:42:29,753

Like the beach body workout?

:

00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:30,563

I, I've heard of

:

00:42:30,563 --> 00:42:30,743

Tyler: it.

:

00:42:30,743 --> 00:42:31,043

Yeah.

:

00:42:31,743 --> 00:42:36,333

Ashley: So she did that for many years

and I guess it was like train changing,

:

00:42:36,333 --> 00:42:40,443

transitioning, like they weren't

doing, I don't know, like she Oh,

:

00:42:40,443 --> 00:42:40,773

Tyler: that's right.

:

00:42:40,773 --> 00:42:41,493

I did hear about that.

:

00:42:41,553 --> 00:42:41,973

Yeah.

:

00:42:42,213 --> 00:42:42,573

Ashley: Yeah.

:

00:42:42,783 --> 00:42:47,343

So they like stopped doing the,

the, I don't know, the pay plan or

:

00:42:47,343 --> 00:42:50,583

whatever that like they were, so I

reached out to her and I was like,

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Hey, like I, what are you doing?

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Like, what are you doing from here?

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I could really use like, somebody that

kind of does more of like the fitness

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side, can build out the workouts,

answer questions for clients like that.

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And, and we just hopped on a call

and immediately kind of just like

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clicked and started building out.

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So Mind Over Medicine is the

business and then Core Revival is

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like our program underneath Right?

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00:43:11,178 --> 00:43:11,928

Mind Medicine.

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00:43:11,928 --> 00:43:15,558

We're, we're hoping to kind of, add

some other things in there for like.

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Prenatal or postpartum or fertility

you know, name that something else.

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So it's all kind of under mind over

medicine, but kind of different

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containers, if that makes sense.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Tyler: Then I had another question before

I get into my actual last question.

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I've.

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Decided to go on another tangent.

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Sounds right.

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So you talked about a lot

about T three and T four.

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Do you notice with a lot of doctors

they're not actually getting the

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right blood work done to kind of

help you with that as well too?

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Or how do you find out that

that transition isn't happening?

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I.

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Ashley: Yeah, so blood

work blood work is great.

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We actually have a lady who offers testing

for us that's more kind of in depth.

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We're able to see what in the

body is actually stressed.

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Mm-hmm.

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00:43:59,192 --> 00:44:02,972

Versus, you know, just seeing that

physical blood work, if that makes sense.

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Right.

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Also, you know, with, with.

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Western medicine, blood work, even

if you're looking at like the, the

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numbers from, you know, that, and

then we're looking at a naturopathic

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doctor looking at those same numbers.

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Mm-hmm.

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Western doctor might say, Hey,

these numbers are completely fine.

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Or, you know, they're not great.

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We need to put you on medication

versus the naturopath.

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We might look at it and be like,

okay, this is saying that it's in

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range, but it's actually not in range.

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Right, right.

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00:44:24,302 --> 00:44:25,862

We need to kind of look at

that and start supporting this

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system a little bit better.

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00:44:27,182 --> 00:44:29,222

Or they might say, you know,

this isn't so bad, we don't need

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to get on medication right now.

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Right.

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00:44:31,082 --> 00:44:34,282

So, yes, we can definitely see that

through testing, but you know, if

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somebody's coming in and they, they

have a thyroid issue, it really

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00:44:36,862 --> 00:44:38,992

just comes down to, like I said,

we need to support that liver.

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We need to kind of clean up our

diet, clean up our lifestyle so

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that that conversion can start to

happen a little bit more naturally.

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Right.

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You know, iodine is another one.

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It's not gonna be perfect for everybody.

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But iodine, a lot of people are,

you know, deficient in that.

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Right.

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00:44:52,182 --> 00:44:55,872

That's gonna play a huge role in that

kind of conversion there as well.

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So.

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I don't know.

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Does that answer your question?

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Tyler: Yeah.

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I've been big into like blood

work and such as from my

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00:45:02,192 --> 00:45:03,692

functional doctor and stuff too.

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00:45:03,692 --> 00:45:06,332

And then just kind of hearing the

back and forth, like, oh yeah,

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00:45:06,332 --> 00:45:09,242

they say it's fine over here, but

we actually have an issue here.

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00:45:09,242 --> 00:45:13,232

Or the typical western doctor

isn't running the right blood work

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00:45:13,337 --> 00:45:14,437

to actually get the full picture.

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00:45:15,107 --> 00:45:18,007

Ashley: Yeah, a lot of them won't

a lot of them won't run or they'll

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00:45:18,007 --> 00:45:20,527

say like, oh, that's not necessary,

Uhhuh, we don't need to all that.

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00:45:20,527 --> 00:45:22,087

And it's, oh, the

insurance won't cover that.

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00:45:22,087 --> 00:45:24,907

And it's like, well, we kind

of need to see it, so why not?

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00:45:25,387 --> 00:45:25,987

Tyler: Exactly.

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00:45:26,827 --> 00:45:29,947

I actually did a, a huge panel done,

and if I would've went anywhere

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00:45:29,947 --> 00:45:31,867

else, they would've been like,

ah, you're, you're healthy, you're

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00:45:31,867 --> 00:45:32,947

in good shape, you don't need it.

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00:45:33,337 --> 00:45:37,237

And come to find out, I was actually

working out too hard, too much every week.

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00:45:37,417 --> 00:45:40,387

And they're like, Hey, you're

actually doing more damage to your

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00:45:40,387 --> 00:45:43,597

heart than you're doing good for

what you think you're doing properly.

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00:45:43,597 --> 00:45:43,657

Ashley: Yeah.

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00:45:44,137 --> 00:45:47,017

That is, I would say the biggest issue.

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00:45:47,017 --> 00:45:50,377

I have never worked with a client where

like they're eating enough and we're

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00:45:50,377 --> 00:45:51,757

just gonna go into a calorie deficit.

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00:45:51,997 --> 00:45:52,147

Mm-hmm.

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00:45:52,387 --> 00:45:56,287

We all do a reverse diet because

everybody is so much undereating.

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00:45:56,292 --> 00:45:56,453

Oh yeah.

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00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:59,077

And we're working out, they're like,

oh yeah, I work out like six days

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00:45:59,077 --> 00:46:02,317

a week, sometimes twice a day, and

I eat like three,:

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00:46:02,317 --> 00:46:03,932

And I'm like, what's, that's the issue.

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00:46:06,762 --> 00:46:07,052

Yeah.

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00:46:07,117 --> 00:46:12,252

It's definitely a common, a common issue

is just overworking out and undereating.

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Yeah.

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00:46:12,427 --> 00:46:12,757

Tyler: Yeah.

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00:46:13,972 --> 00:46:14,182

All right.

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00:46:14,182 --> 00:46:17,332

So my, my actual real question now

since we are coming up on the time,

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00:46:17,332 --> 00:46:20,322

and I wanna be respectful of your time

too, is if you could tell your younger

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00:46:20,322 --> 00:46:21,702

self one thing, what would it be?

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00:46:21,702 --> 00:46:21,762

I.

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00:46:23,697 --> 00:46:24,747

Ashley: That it's gonna be okay.

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00:46:24,927 --> 00:46:31,587

I think I always felt like I needed to

control it or like it needed to be my way.

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00:46:31,587 --> 00:46:35,347

I need to have this workout the

way that I wanted to because I felt

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00:46:35,347 --> 00:46:37,807

like if I didn't do it or I didn't

have control over these things,

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00:46:37,807 --> 00:46:39,157

like everything's gonna fall apart.

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00:46:39,447 --> 00:46:43,767

And kind of going back to, you know, what

happened with my son and, and postpartum.

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00:46:44,247 --> 00:46:46,857

Again, I think that that

had to happen in my life.

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00:46:46,857 --> 00:46:51,177

Like I needed to kind of get to that rock

bottom of Ashley, you can't control this.

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00:46:51,182 --> 00:46:51,412

Mm-hmm.

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00:46:51,492 --> 00:46:56,067

And like Ashley, you can't make

this better and like you're alone.

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00:46:56,307 --> 00:46:56,367

Yeah.

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00:46:56,397 --> 00:46:59,547

You need to lean on God and

like have faith that God is

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00:46:59,547 --> 00:47:00,327

gonna get you through it.

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00:47:00,327 --> 00:47:02,367

Because I literally had no other choice.

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00:47:02,767 --> 00:47:07,927

And I think if I had learned that

lesson earlier in my life, maybe I

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00:47:07,927 --> 00:47:09,667

wouldn't have had to go through that.

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00:47:09,667 --> 00:47:12,187

But yeah, I think I would say don't.

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00:47:12,727 --> 00:47:16,147

Don't worry so much about controlling the

outcome 'cause everything's gonna be okay.

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00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:17,917

Tyler: Yeah, I love it.

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00:47:17,977 --> 00:47:19,537

It's, you have to be

in the dark sometimes.

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00:47:19,537 --> 00:47:21,367

Realize that the light

actually is still there.

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00:47:21,877 --> 00:47:22,537

Ashley: Yeah, yeah.

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00:47:22,537 --> 00:47:23,407

100%.

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00:47:24,367 --> 00:47:24,592

Tyler: So deep.

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00:47:25,672 --> 00:47:27,322

Sometimes get there, sometimes.

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00:47:28,032 --> 00:47:29,562

So, but thank you so much for coming on.

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00:47:29,562 --> 00:47:32,142

I really appreciate you coming

on and doing this with us.

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00:47:32,142 --> 00:47:34,742

And maybe when you do move to

Wilmington, we can do it in person again.

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00:47:35,222 --> 00:47:38,402

Ashley: Yeah, I think this summer actually

my assistant coach and I are gonna come

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00:47:38,402 --> 00:47:40,472

out there, so maybe I will reach out.

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00:47:40,682 --> 00:47:41,042

Tyler: Oh, sweet.

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00:47:41,042 --> 00:47:41,312

Yeah.

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00:47:41,732 --> 00:47:42,542

Good to have you both on.

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00:47:43,292 --> 00:47:43,592

Ashley: Yeah.

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00:47:43,592 --> 00:47:45,257

Well, thanks so much for having me.

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00:47:45,332 --> 00:47:46,382

I appreciate it.

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00:47:46,592 --> 00:47:46,952

Yeah, thank

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00:47:46,952 --> 00:47:47,132

Chris: you.

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00:47:47,192 --> 00:47:51,422

And where can people reach out, find

you, follow everything that you're doing?

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00:47:52,497 --> 00:47:55,467

Ashley: So my Instagram

is my nourished belly.

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00:47:55,747 --> 00:47:59,467

And then my other coach is Casey

K Fit and Casey is with a K.

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00:47:59,847 --> 00:48:04,287

We do have our like business Instagram,

but we kind of just started it, I think

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00:48:04,287 --> 00:48:08,727

it's mind dot over Medicine community.

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00:48:09,447 --> 00:48:09,567

Ashley & Tyler: Mm-hmm.

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00:48:09,568 --> 00:48:09,569

Ashley: Okay.

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00:48:09,569 --> 00:48:12,681

Maybe that reach out to either

of us kind of just on dm.

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00:48:12,801 --> 00:48:15,891

I think our applications in

our bio as well, so yeah.

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00:48:16,131 --> 00:48:16,371

Tyler: Cool.

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00:48:16,671 --> 00:48:17,061

Awesome.

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Thank you.

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00:48:18,336 --> 00:48:19,536

So go ahead and check her out.

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00:48:19,566 --> 00:48:23,136

And for everyone else that is in

Wilmington, wants to start a podcast.

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00:48:23,196 --> 00:48:24,726

Think about Kent Street Station.

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00:48:24,726 --> 00:48:25,416

That's where we're at now.

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